Braindrain……………. The people in the 3rd world are poor for 2 reason 1. They are not civilized and have not gone through a gradual change over hundreds of years like people in the west have and 2. The main reason they are still poor is because of hideous dictators and criminals I mean officials who run there countries. The 2nd reason is the main one and if we could just get rid of the corruption these people/countries would start on their way to catching up with the west.

From what I am reading in your posts Braindrain you seem to think that the west and the rest seem to be equal when in comes to the issues of morals and you stumbled around trying to prove this by compare female circumcision in Africa with that of baby boys in Australia. You should look into how each of these is done and then you will see that they are worlds apart.

The only reason pedophilia is seen in the west is because we have the time and money to chase these people. Other countries are just trying to make ends meat and don’t have the time or resources to investigate or track these people down.

The West is as equal in morals with non western countries as we are when in comes to economics development.

Obviously and Banjo, admitting ignorance is not a weakness, staying loyal to lies is. You were taught and acculturated into believing big porkpies about race and racism growing up (so was I).

But its time to move on now and get with it. I sense that you want to be fair minded etcetera, but this is contradicted and compromised by those same myths you think are facts.

Others here have taken the time to explain very important perspectives to you both and others. You don't owe them anything other than to try and understand what they are saying and acknowledging it to yourselves.

Racism is a white problem and white people need to work with each other to confront it. The effort must begin with an understanding of the privilege that comes with being white. . .white is normative, average, ideal, and therefore preferred.

Racism is not my problem but i know its effects all too well.

Rainer, Rainier, Rainier.

What i have said is not a lie. i was quoting dawkins. if i am lying then he too was lying to me. im gettin sick of people taking my quotes from dawkins as someone's racist opinion.

"people have more difference in genes bewteen races as opposed to races compared to each other".

well a stunning conclusion is that, for particular genes, you are more closely related to some chipanzees than to some humans (me included), lets bring them over and join our multi-cultural mission.

"BUT as I said there is a greater likely hood that there are more differences (genetic) between you and me - assuming you are a white anglo type as am"- but once again rainier, now listen closly, as with the chimp to human comparisson, the more differences (genetic) between you and me, dosnt mean anything, as PERCENTAGE(amount of genes) dosnt CORRESPOND WITH ITS IMPORTANCE!

conclusion "race does exist, people prefer their own type, certain types will always (at evryones peril) struggle to intergrate, and i really do believe multi-culturalism will unravel spectacuarly one day across "australia,europe etc"

Obviously, either you're profoundly dyslexic or just too proud to admit you have it all wrong.

In terms of your arguments, I'll take my cues from genetic science and scientists thanks. They are much more reliable than your convoluted mix of racism, culturalism and animal behaviour theories.

And by the way, I'm not white. But we may indeed share exactly same genetic makeup and lets just assume that we do - because it just proves quite clearly that intellectual competencies are not informed by genes.

Lets change the word genetics to KIN.The mature cells (adults) split off and create new cells (CHILDREN) . Its called the cycle of life. We old cells reproduce to have some chance at cellular (genetic) immortality in the coming millenniums here on earth.
It is our ONLY chance at immortality if heaven turns out to be not real.

We will guard our cellular offspring (our children) with out life. We also know that our extended family has cellular connection to us. We know our tribe also has the CLOSEST cellular connection to us through tribal intermarriage.
If we feel our kin are being denied access to the resources they need to survive we will go to war or commit acts of violence if necessary to ensure that although we as the old cells must die our closest related cells will survive.
Its that simple no matter what some science textbook may say about genetics.

if i have it wrong, dawkins has it wrong, site "The Ancestors's Tale", read it!