Hi there K. Jim...
No I didn't. You say the incident happened tonight? Was it shown on TV this evening, and did it appear that the unfortunate chap was resisting in some way? And, from what you saw, do you believe it may have been an accident? Or was there some actual violence offered by the homeless chap? Jim, heavens I dunno. If it happened, as you say it happened, and I have no reason to doubt you, then I reckon the Qld. coppers may have a problem.

To all you good folk, I do not have the answers. I can only comment with some accuracy, in matters which I've been directly involved. I know that I'll be absolutely howled down. But, I must again say, that the average copper simply wants to do his job. And get through his shift, without being injured, with the minimum amount of fuss and trouble. So he may pick up his pay every fortnight, and have a beer or two with his mates. This does NOT answer all your allegations. As I've said, I simply DO NOT have all the facts. I was merely trying to offer an opinion for the police. Any police officer, who breaks the law, should be charged. And, upon conviction, should be punished. Goodnight all. O Sung Wu.

O Sung Wu

Your final word seemed to be way off point again.

Remember in a previous post you asked.

'...it would indeed be nice for you and your cohorts, to explain and demonstrate, how better we could or should do our jobs. Especially in similar circumstances, where significant violence is offered by these destructive groups.'

I responded by pointing to the Deaths in Custody and the Coroner's reports. Both had specific recommendations as to how police could do their jobs better in similar circumstances.

I also suggested you read the Coroner's report. That would acquaint yourself with the details of the latest death.

You've totally ignored both comments and yet you are crictcal of me for having poverty in my argument.

'Accept the criticism ...and quietly move on' ... while changing
nothing.

That's exactly what police forces in this country have done since the Deaths in Custody inquiry.

That indeed is a remarkably accurate epithet O Sung Wu.

O sung wu, The video footage from a security camera was shown either on the ABC news or the 7.30 report or SBS news. Even the qld olice minister was taken aback.The footage was clear and there was also some recorded conversation .
The person involved is taking it further. They had an interview with him .
I will try to find it .It will do nothing for your day.
I happen to believe that police have a very difficult job at times ,but excessive use of force is where they can let the side down and sets a very bad example unfortunately .

Hello there K. Jim...
Again, I must say that I didn't see the incident to which you refer.
And I would suggest, that most coppers are acutely aware of issues of 'excessive force'. In my time I've had to answer allegations of over zealous behaviour in quite a number disturbances. Including...'staring with malevolence' at a woman (who was abusing me and others) during an incident outside a Macca's. As a consequence of my 'malevolent stare' (with intent), I received a 'Direction' from Internal Affairs to explain my 'Unprofessional Conduct'. Particularly in the presence of my subordinates !? Beats me! K. Jim it's not hard to get into trouble in the job. At the end of some shifts, you're still banging away on the Olivetti in order to answer some vexatious complaint against you, or your patrol.

I agree with you entirely, apropos police using ANY unnecessary force. And you're correct in saying that it's not a good look. It's hard enough doing your job as it is, without adding any self inflicted burden, unnecessarily.
Cheers...O Sung Wu.

hello o sung wu, the brisbane homeless man arrest story can be found at www.theaustralian.news.com.au cheers kartiya.

Hi there K. Jim...
Thanks for the reference you cited. I did read it, and I must admit that on this occasion it would appear to have been a heavy handed response by police. Police Minister Spence even described the method of arrest as ..."dreadful"... The necessity of four police to effect an arrest of a 65 yo. pensioner, seems prima facie, to be excessive.

You also mentioned that you saw TV footage (ABC/SBS?) of the actual arrest. Was Brendon ROWE engaged in any resistive conduct? Sometimes, it is far safer to utilize an arrest tactic using more police, rather then less (one grasping a limb each). But, the weight of opinion seems to support your assertion that excessive force was used. In any event, Mr ROWE stated that he was going to proceed against the Police Department for using unreasonable force. I'd be interested to see how he goes.

I notice that Minister Spence, made no apology for the so called tough stance the Govt. has taken on issues of anti-social behaviour (street offences). Who knows what's in the minds of our Pollies? I suppose it's a case of the respective governments, making the bullets, and the coppers firing them ? Thanks again K. Jim. Cheers...O Sung Wu.