Sung wu

That coroner after nearly two years laid responsibility for the man's death squarely at the feet of Senior Sargent Hurley.

No arrests have been made and no charges laid. Why do you think, after two years, that is the case?

The initial Police investigation cleared Senior Sargent Hurley of any blame for the man's death. They found it was the result of an unfortunate accident. No inquiry into that 'investigation' nor any auditory proceess has been proposed or instigated.

Why do you think, after two years, that is the case?

At the publishing of the Coroners report the Police were up in arms. The police union publicly claimed Hurley was innocent and the Coroner's enquiry was a witch hunt.

Privately police were saying any charges laid on Hurley would see an end to them policing indigenous settlements.

Like to suggest why genuine Police allowed those things to go uncriticised?

Would truly unbiased and genuine police have tried to cover Hurley's asse?

Hello there Keith...
At my first 'Post' I did say that I personally, had very little knowledge of the events and subsequent consequences arising out of the Palm Island affair. That said, and assuming the facts that you've sought to provide, are substantially correct... I must state, that the substantial delay between the result, and any recommondations articulated in the coroners findings, is indeed puzzling. Further, you state that the coroner recommended that a Sergeant of Police be charged with murder... And; you further allege, that to date, no action, to this end, has yet commenced... I cannot offer you any explanation. However,the preferral of any charges, lays squarely within the aegis of the DPP. Perhaps, the DPP in their wisdom, cannot establish the criminal proofs? Or the actual Mens rea (criminal intent) is obscured, or difficult to establish? Keith, I really don't know. But please, DO NOT harbour antipathy toward police in general. Sure, in every industry you occasionally run across misfits. Coppers, are simply ordinary members of society, trying to bring-up a family, and meet their obligations to their creditors, as we all do. Gee Keith, we really cop it sometimes, and often the communication 'logjam' is way way beyond our control. I know I've not satisfied your enquiry. But I've tried. I was once told that..."a copper is the first person you want to see when in trouble, but the last person you'd want to have a drink with"... Kind regards... O Sung Wu.

o sung wu , when one looks at our police /Aboriginal conflicts over the last 200 years the police to my knowledge have invariably got their man or woman one way or another -sometimes with terrible results for many Indigenous people who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time .
I know times have changed for the better but this looks very Bad and needs resolving in a just way .I can only hope the historic "blind eye " on Aboriginal deaths is not being seen again .

First, Quiggley... Not sure of your statement stating that Indigenous education receives more funding. send me evidence of this and I'll believe it.

Secondly, 'O sung Wu'... you first spoke of an 'excuse industry' and that we need to remove ourselves from under it. I certainly agree with you but our police leaders and politicians (hard to tell them apart at times) need to do the same first.

It was terrible to see that Hurley and his lawyer made the decision to stand down, a pure example of the tail wagging the dog.

Why is it that we all see and know there are major problems within 'some' Indigenous communities, regardless of location, and we don't address them as a nation. Meaning that we sit back and say that Aboriginal people need to fix themselves.

However when the farming community is affected by harsh issues such as drought we agree that the federal and state governments 'should' step in and, seeing that we just do so, our vote-needy politician administer aid packages immediately.

Before you jump on me with a 'but this is environmental based outcomes and they had no choice where Aboriginal people created their own problems,' how many warnings and efforts to create more sustainable and environmentally appropriate ways must a country be encouraged to follow before they realise that we live in a drought ridden, dry, minimal top soil nation.

Yet we never inject adequate funding (yes the buckets of money and free house are fake, if they were true then I would have them instead of the usual debt) into solving these intergenerational issue of housing, unemployment and education.

Why are some people in our community allowed to benefit from excuses (some police officers, farmers, politicians, professional sportspeople) while Indigenous Australians are told to live with the outcomes.

As someone who knows of Victor's work ethic, he is not someone sitting is a little office reading all the time, he is very community based and active in education and justice groups. Come to think of it are either of you on your local Indigenous justice group?

o sung wu, Quiggley,
I note you take umbrage at my comments and understand that you may not have been aware of the coroner's findings.

I realise that coppers have a difficult role in society, they are damned if they do or damnded if they don't.

However, Cameron Doomagee did not cause his liver to be torn almost in two.

It appears that your talk of people taking responsiblity for their actions applies to others. I merely suggested that Hurley is made to take responsibility for his actions.

In NQ this inequity is difficult to take.

Murri people have taken heart that justice might occur with the findings of the coroner but they are so conscious of the fact that the rioters were jailed immediately to await trial.

Hurley was given office duties AND IS STILL NOT CHARGED WITH ANYTHING! (easy to verify from news reports)

I would like to state that my name on OLO is Aka , meaning grandmother, not AKA meaning Also Known As.

Further to this I have been married to an excopper for 25years.

I believe it is time for justice to be available to everyone.

It does no-one any good to see coppers appear to continue to expect to be above the law.

Hi Sung wu

Mate I must say in my life I have often found trouble. From my experience when those troubles have arisen, I've got to say, the very last person I'd liked to have seen was a policeman. ;-)