"You've also made an illogical argument. Firstly an assumption police practices are always correct and fair."

Hi Keith,

I don't know where you got this from, because if you read my post I make no mention of Police practices.

I can't comment on why there is the largest population of Police in Qld just down the road from you. Maybe it's a head office of sort, maybe it is a high crime area, maybe it's a training facility so therefore there appears to be lots of Police around all the time. I must be mistaken but I thought the public wanted lots of Police around, most are complaining to the government that there aren't enough.

The problem with the native blacks is that they are spoilt. Free education no matter how much you earn, get another government supplied residence after destroying it, allowed to hide behind bleeding heart policies to kill endangered animals such as the dugong, and more.

When a government actually does something that will help you, all we hear is, "white fella knows best". Do nothing, get attacked. Help out, get attacked.

The fact is that no white person forced the native blacks to riot. You did this yourselves and were helped out when a senior government minister of the Beattie government gave immunity to someone who was encouraging violence against white people.

I hope blacks never take control of our governments because they prove themselves on a world wide basis, ATSIC included, that they can't run a government without pushing people into extreme despair due to tribal hatred.

Don't blame the white man for the criminal behaviour, blame yourselves. It's called, self-responsibility.

On the other side of the coin, I live in Central Queensland where there is ofcourse, a number of Aboriginals.

When I first moved here, I camped along the river while looking for somewhere to live so I could move up the rest of my family. During this time, I did see something disturbing when it came to police and Aboriginals.

I had been watching the Aboriginals who liked to sit in a large circle under the trees for shelter from the intense heat. They were not drinking or using drugs. I found them friendly and invited me to sit with them but I was busy finding a home so I had to refuse.

Walking back to my campsite one day, the police who were talking them, what looked like harrassment to me, completely ignored me until a few of the Aboriginals said hello to me. As soon as I received a 'hello' from the Aboriginals, the police officers then began questioning on what I was doing, wanting to know why I was walking past, where I lived.

Really, is this necessary?

I think it is wonderful that the Internet can join us mob together to discuss this topic. I find it hard to see where we would be able to do so without more tension. Regardless the points I wish to raise as an Indigenous person are:
1. IF we generalise, we run the risk of making assumptions of everyone...meaning, the author in broad in his enclusion of all police haiving the same mind set towards Indigenous people. Although an element of officers harbour racist beliefs and actions, some are open minded and flexible (like the few in the forum). By generalising we also include the small but effective Indigenous officers in the force that are burdened with strange feelings at present (Culture and Job thoughts)

2. Blame needs to fall where it should. If people do wrong then they should face the outcomes, but let us not take the historical context out of this exercise on justice. Their have been 220 years of excuses as to why it was OK to overtake, destroy and live off Indigenous country. The failure to address the treaty process will forever create a power imbalance. Let's get that in order and enforce the 339 recommendations as well as other policies designed to improve Indigenous life outcomes.

Thanks,

Tell me Quiggley do you know why the police required such numbers in that remote town?

It is not more police but effective policing that many people want. Less traffic hounds and more effective policing where the daily petty crime, that effects many of us, is involved.

That also probably applies in that outback town you mention.

But you know 2deadly is spot on. It is great we can chat, generalising is not the proper way to discuss anything, and many lessons of the past don't seem to have been learned very well at all in the area of policing. Especially in areas were there are concentrations of indigenous people

Hi there 'Quiggley'...Yes indeed, I do believe I know of the town in Western NSW to which you refer. My wife and I were 'ordered' from the main street of the town (we were both on Annual Leave) by a group of Koories. Not wanting to cause any trouble or generate any further antagonism by our presence, we promptly left. They did not know I was a 'jack'. Simply a couple of white fifty + year olds, having a bit of a look, at an historic NSW country town.

To: (a) C.J. Morgan; and (b) Keith...

I'm simply trying to illustrate, that unacceptable behaviour or physically aggressive conduct, should not be tolerated for a moment. Notwithstanding who the perpetrater/s is/are. Further, I do agree with 'Quiggley', that specialized educational resources should be considered, which are culturally specific by design. Some twenty odd years ago I was required to attend a 'Koorie' workshop. There, a number of exceptionally erudite Koorie educators, spent four days giving the police attendees , a broad appreciation of their culture, and the difficulties confronting their own people (mainly young folk), with the extraordinarily convoluted relationships, they necessarily had to endure with police.

I believe no real gains can be made, by pursuing the 'blame game'. As one intellectual giant once exclaimed..."don't give me the problem - give me the solution"...!

Kind regards...O Sung Wu.

PS: A little secret...I've never been much of a fan of acadamics or theorists. It's so easy to 'engineer' so called solutions, from the dusty confines of a little office, deeply ensconced in some remote University.