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Blaming blackfellas for their lot : Comments

By Victor Hart, published 19/10/2006

Queensland governments have provided a diagonal nod of support and complicity to a culture of hate among police against Aboriginal Australians.

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What this fella said
Posted by Rainier, Wednesday, 20 December 2006 9:19:03 AM
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This article is typical of what comes out of universities. It is highly critical of everyone but the Aborigines (surprise, surprise), broadbrushing an entire group of people (eg. "Queensland police personnel who harbour a deep hate for Aboriginal peoples "). In so doing it does what the author himself decries: the practice of oversimplifying issues and putting people into categories. The article is also totally vague, eg. "the need to create a more dynamic and representative political interface between the grassroots and government. This would ensure policy can become informed as well as accountable". Only a uni lecturer could come up with such meaningless nonsense. Why do they phrase things like this? Because if the language is vague & non-specific, this makes the author totally immune from criticism himself. His 'solutions' cannot be faulted because they are impossible to implement in the first place as they are so totally lacking in specifics.

OK, he says we need to implement the recommendations of the Royal Commission. Great. But what does the author see as the key recommendations of those 339? Come one Mr Uni Lecturer, don't be so lazy. Inform us on the topic you are writing about...if you can. If you genuinely want to help solve the problem, let's see in black & white (sorry) in crystal clear language exactly what you recommend. Get out of you ivory tower and get down to reality.

There was one thing he got right. "we need to address the root causes (of Aboriginal community problems)." He doesn't tell us what they are, however. I suspect the answer to that question may be far too politically incorrect. We are not yet ready to hear the answer. And so problems will continue to fester, helping to delay giving Aborigines the tools needed to integrate into the modern, global world we all live in.
Posted by TNT, Friday, 19 January 2007 7:28:59 PM
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Well someone should do a study of what Aborigines and their quarter brothers add to our national economy as opposed to the social security benefits they extort from the rest of us.Really it is just conscience money for a culture that is almost extinct.Vikings and Romans invaded England.There was no special considerations for differences in race.People just got on with life.

I will gladly pay taxes for those traditional people who are having a go,but not for my nine tenths Anglo brothers who just want a free ride.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 19 January 2007 8:06:43 PM
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Arjay, I'm surprised. While we have had our differences I did not expect you to stoop to such a low level of comment.

TNT, it seems from the tone and logic of your post that no matter what this author writes, or his personal and professional knowledge of these issues, you'll never be satisfied.

A pity the both of you don't have the intestinal fortitude to publish a piece here on OLO so you can be as publicly accountable for your opinions as this author is.

But this would be asking for the impossible from a pair of cowards wouldn't it.
Posted by Rainier, Friday, 19 January 2007 10:58:57 PM
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Rainier writes:

"Arjay, I'm surprised. While we have had our differences I did not expect you to stoop to such a low level of comment."

Vague & condescending. Much like the article's author.

"TNT, it seems from the tone and logic of your post that no matter what this author writes, or his personal and professional knowledge of these issues, you'll never be satisfied."

More vague stuff.

"A pity the both of you don't have the intestinal fortitude to publish a piece here on OLO so you can be as publicly accountable for your opinions as this author is."

Hello! This is a forum, where hopefully opinions other than simply the PC line are accepted. As a forum, these opinions can be held to account. I think they call it 'debate', where, by using logic, ridiculous arguments are made to look just that - ridiculous. I think by "publicly accountable", you mean, publicly lampooned, attacked & silenced. And it doesn't take "intestinal fortitude" to toe the PC line. Any fool can do that. A non-PC opinion requires far more "intestinal fortitude" because you can be sure that the PC police (academia & MSM) & their lackeys will respond with personal attacks. Your post just proved that.

"But this would be asking for the impossible from a pair of cowards wouldn't it."

Oooooh. Scary stuff, but a predictable use of the ad-hom from a PC guy (or gal! so sorry if I caused offence with the masculine form which could have possibly been construed as sexist). No attempt at logic here or at debating the points. I'll give you the last word because I'm not going to waste any more of my time debating an ad-hom/PC guy (they're usually one & the same) (oops, did it again!). And I'm boycotting all your posts in future because debating a name-caller is like debating a child. Bad luck, you didn't even make it past the first round. You are the weakest link. Goodbye!
Posted by TNT, Saturday, 20 January 2007 1:28:30 AM
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TNT,
Plenty of good research comes out of Universities . You probably wouldn't be doing what you are doing without it .
The findings from research work on Aboriginal Social problems is often unpalatable to white and also black Australians. It may not provide the answers but where it does quite often it gets ridiculed by vested interests and flat line thinkers who refuse to take blame for Aboriginal conditions even when they hold the money and power.
The present government refuses to make a separate Ministry to help Aboriginal People overcome their problems; this proves Howard and his National lackeys are hopeless and not serious on addressing the biggest problems in our most depressed group of our Australian Society.
Aboriginal Reconciliation, saying Sorry for past injustices and lack of an Internationally recognised Treaty are for OTHER countries ,not us {have you noticed a pattern here]and this with a so called "Christian" Government.
This continues to give other countries more ammunition to carry out their own Human Rights Abuses such as we see in West Papua .
Many Aboriginal People are starting to "do well" but on percentage terms they receive much less than they need to lift their basic health and education-vital ingredients for a fulfilling life.
All this neglect may make the "ostrich club" feel good ,but will pose a continual unnecessary burden on all Australians.
One Vote but NOT the One Value !
Posted by kartiya jim, Saturday, 20 January 2007 10:05:30 AM
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