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‘Dissing’ men: the new gender war : Comments

By Jim Macnamara, published 15/9/2006

The negative portrayal of men in contemporary societies is not only a matter of concern for men, but also for women.

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Turn off the TV..better still throw it out..
Dont listen to the radio..or if you do only Radio National.

Go back 50 yrs to when women took care of the kids and enjoyed the company of girlfriends and shopping and dad went out to work and had a beer with his mates..
Men and women had mutual respect for each other and kids werent confused about role models..
Nobody talked about gay pple let alone campaign for rights..

Then came feminism and and the whole lot went down the tube.

Kids are now left home alone because mum just has to go and make her 'mark' on the world...dads dont know which way is up because they were once the bread winners and were taught that from birth,
divorce sees men left high and dry and liitle access to his kids and in a lge number of cases women are leaving just because..dont need a reason.

And the kids are the ones having their world ,values,security and future screwed over..they are always the ones to suffer .

Marriage and family committment is now not a priority anymore...the media reinforces this veiw..women are portrayed as whores and men as oppotunistic pigs..our kids watch and learn.

THROW OUT THE TV.Dont care if noone agrees with me...Id swap it all for the old days in a heartbeat.
Posted by OZGIRL, Monday, 18 September 2006 10:28:33 PM
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If my last post sounds a bit like Im 'dissing' women..yeah well maybe I am a bit..
Women have forgotten theyre 1st priority...theyre children and theyre marriage...

If we want a career..go have one but do not expect children should settle for parents that are sometimes there in body but not in spirit..spread to thin.Having kids is THE most important job one can do..but is treated by some women as an after thought, not a priority.

Men dont know where they stand anymore...

Kids have no real role models and so go on to parent without any real clue, they cant pass on what they dont have?..
We need to go back to basics..have a career after kids..or dont have any kids.Simple.

Someone on another thread said Germaine Greer was responsible for generating the feminist movement...I say she has a lot to answer for.
Posted by OZGIRL, Tuesday, 19 September 2006 12:00:48 AM
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I hate feminism since the late 1990s. It's nothing like the old feminism where women were rightfully granted rights. It's now only about showing:

1. That women are as physically strong as men. Please! If you are a woman and reading this, get it through your head: Any man, including myself, can beat you down if we want. No one's going to but don't have a chip on your shoulder and you'll be fine.

2. Women are equally apt at science as men are. Science has repeatedly shown that women are a bit less intelligent at 'hard sciences'. They are simply different and this cannot be ignored.

All I'm saying is that women should be respected and treated like God's sacred object because they give life and can do anything a man can do. Can they do EVERYTHING as well as a man can?

NO WAY!
Posted by FEMINISM IS STUPID, Tuesday, 19 September 2006 2:07:34 AM
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No, and to get a balanced argument, men cannot do everything women can do either and I do not mean just childbirth. I am amazed (although when I think on it, not really) at the vitriol expressed against feminism. I was uncomfortable with the concept until I studied it for my honour's thesis and found it has a lot of merit. However, blaming it for all the ills in society is narrow minded to say the least. There were very valid reasons for its success and these should not be forgotten or ignored. Yes, I am an academic like Greer and I also believe that my viewpoints are just as valid as any other man's or woman's. Also I attended public school as did all my children and I don't know what the argument is about treating boys and girls differently.
As for Steve Irwin, for heaven's sake, nice guy though he apparently was, his antics with wild animals and children were irresponsible to say the least. That caused more than a cringe in me, not his outfit or his enthusiam and I will admit at the risk of offending other posters to OLO that my first reaction at hearing of his death was that the animals had had enough.
Posted by Marilyn, Tuesday, 19 September 2006 10:14:49 AM
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Marilyn, you're not an academic and the kind of feminism that's preached these days is very dangerous. I totally disagree with you.
Posted by FEMINISM IS STUPID, Tuesday, 19 September 2006 12:53:08 PM
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In response to Feminism is Stupid,
I don't know what you mean when you say that I am not an academic, I have the Degrees to prove it. Also, it is your perogative to disagree with me. In my innocence, I like to believe that there is still freedom of speech in Australia, and while we disagree with people we still respect their points of view. If the feminism that is preached "these days" is different to the feminism that I studied, perhaps it is the result of putting the concept into practice. That is using the guise of 'feminism' to promote a certain viewpoint in exactly the same way that 'religion' is used to promote certain viewpoints. These viewpoints sometimes bear little resemblance to the original concept.
Posted by Marilyn, Tuesday, 19 September 2006 1:42:22 PM
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