Why arn't "Australian" Jews who support Israel not subject to the same restrictions as "Australian" Muslims who support Hezbollah, Greg Barns?

Too easy. Israelis a recognised country and a member of the United Nations. Hezbollah is a private army of mercenaries and religous fanatics who have no right to wage a war of aggression upon a UN state. Hezbollah has no more recognition as "a state" than does the Ku Klux Klan, the Red Brigades, or the Mafia.

Sometimes I think that I am talking to a bunch of retarded children.

Strewth,

Kind words are a luxury: better be verbally abused than physically dead.

I support Israel's survival, as the only Jewish state in the world.
I support Israel doing whatsoever is necessary to defend itself (whether the rest of the world likes it or not).
I do not support actions by Israel that hurt others and are committed for any purpose other than self-defence (such as allowing civilians to settle in occupied territory).

I support Israel's military supremacy.
I support Israel's moral supremacy, and I am saddened when it gets dented. Despite those dents - which I like seeing fixed, Israel is still far more morally superior than its terrorist opponents.

Keith,

Thanks, but why "courageous"? these were my views ever since:

I support Israel returning to its pre-67 borders as soon as it is safe to do so, so once returned, the occupied territories will not be used for launching further and deadlier attacks on the Jewish state. Until then, a long road is ahead: efforts must be made step-by-step to escape this entaglement.

I cannot give justice to the complex refugee issue in 350 words.
As a brief rule, individuals who genuinely accept Israel as a Jewish state and are genuinely affiliated with this land (as opposed to those whose only interest in Israel is to destroy it from within), should be able to live there. Others not, and a financial-compensation needs to be worked out on a case-by-case basis (to include Jewish refugees and properties in Arab countries).

Most Israelis do not support occupation - Israel was trapped into occupying lands that its majority does not want, but unable to leave for security reasons.

Spider,

"If someone were to come in to your neighbourhood, push all of you out": that's exactly what Arabs tried to do to the Jews, who defended themselves and won! Those who did not attack Jews in cold blood, remained on their land as Israeli citizens.

Strewth: "That none of the Zionist tribe on OLO, to my knowledge, have ever disassociated themselves from your perverted views speaks volumes for how they really think."

You're not paying attention. In http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=4648#46958 , I said I don't support ethnic cleansing. And you're again trying to play the same old game of "if you didn't denounce it, you must support it." Shall I assume you agree with everything you haven't denounced?

Keith, you are confused; there is no "res. 149" relevant to the conflict. Surely you mean Res. 194. Like other GA resolutions, it is only a recommendation. Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen voted against it. Some of its provisions have been implemented in full, and some ignored by all parties.

Spider: "If someone were to come in to your neighbourhood, push all of you out, force you live in third world conditions as they feasted like Kings, wouldn't you fight back?"

We did. We won. We're back.

Yuyu,

"Israel's survival"? What are you talking about here? Holocaust Mark 2 or regime change? In neither case has there ever been a realistic prospect of either from 1948-2006. The Palestinians, however, HAVE BEEN wiped off the map as a nation and ARE BEING ethnically cleansed on a daily basis. Your tribe's survival is not and has never been in doubt in Palestine. Your real, as opposed to your professed, concern is solely that your tribe, having ethnically cleansed and continuing to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians, remain topdog. Your claim to moral supremacy in this butchery is a sick joke.

sganot,

You are a total hypocrite. You say "I don't support ethnic cleansing" and then argue that the implementation of UNGA res 194 is only a "recommendation" - as if that gives your tribe the right to ignore it. And without even bothering to read your latest apologetics I can guarantee that you had no problem whatever with your tribe's ethnic cleansing of south Lebanon.

Sganot ”Col Rouge, the US allows dual citizenship, and millions of Americans are also citizens of other countries.

You are right that to become a naturalized US citizen, one must renounce other citizenships.”

I am not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me, either way, your suggestion,

“US allows dual citizenship”

and

“to become a naturalized US citizen, one must renounce other citizenships”

are self contradictory.

I am comfortable with what my belief is, as I suggested “to become a naturalized US citizen, one must renounce other citizenships.”

Strewth,

I am not talking of a regime-change: Israel is a democracy, so its regime have changed several times already.

Israel today is under threat of holocaust more than ever: Iran is building nuclear weapons and the moment they have them, they will unquestionably launch them at Israel. This is why Israel developed the best anti-missile missiles in the world, the 'Chetz', but with nukes, even one getting through is enough to finish Israel. It is also possible that they will hand such weapons to Hezbullah, to detonate on the ground, which is one big reason why none of them should be able to get any close to Israel's border.

On its other front, Israel is preventing a holocaust daily. Hamas and similar terrorist groups vowed to kill all the Jews, which they proved again and again by suicide bombers attacking civilians and daily launching of hand-made rockets on Israeli towns near Gaza. Israel does not wait till they become successful, till they obtain professional missiles instead of their improvised ones, but cleanse them while they are small and destroys their bomb factories: not the poor Palestinians as such, just the terrorists (although despite reasonable care, unavoidably some civilans can also be hurt in process).

Yes, Israel should remain topdog, for the sole reason that as an underdog it would not survive one day, while its enemies had no problem surviving as underdogs for many years.

By imagining, inventing and claiming that my (or Israel's) real concerns, WHICH WERE NEVER OTHERWISE, are different than what I (or Israel) profess, you only show your own guilty conscience. Mine is clear.