Numby – what an elaborate attempt to wriggle out of answering my question. How about answering some of my other questions? Can you name another country in the ME where Jews and Christians have rights? Guess not. I (and others) also provided dozens of quotes from ‘Arab leaders’ who were dedicated to destroying Israel – you never did specify exactly what an ‘Arab leader’ is, although I asked you to define your terms.

Did you also discover that the Hamas Charter is correct?

‘Did Steel also debunk the statement by the Iranian cleric Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani’ – don’t think you replied to this one either.

And now you refuse to say what you would do if you were in the place of an Israeli. What a typical hypocrite you are – you emote and criticize at a distance of thousands of miles, you live (exactly as the Israelis live) on ‘stolen land’, yet you refuse to admit that you could easily be in the same position if the scenario I presented had been real. Well, what would you do? If you are a non-aboriginal Australian living in Australia, the question gets to the heart of your ‘morality’.

‘Katusha rockets’

I got this information from the speech made by the Israeli spokeswoman at the July 24th press conference in Sydney. I see no reason to disbelieve her.

‘The ex-security zone in South Lebanon, evacuated by Israel under the pressure of former US President Clinton, is now totally under Hezbollah terrorist control. Hezbollah has deployed there 2000 permanent men with a significant weaponry: 6000 to 10,000 improved long range Katusha missiles with tube launchers, anti-aircraft missiles of "Strella" type, anti-Aircraft guns of different calibers, 130mmm Guns, 120mm and 80mm mortars, electronic warfare equipment, anti-tank missiles, type "Sagger" improved and some of them wireless.’ (Of course, this must be 'Zionist propaganda).

http://www.free-lebanon.com/LFPNews/2003/October/red_flag/red_flag.html

So when are you giving your bit of 'stolen land' back to the original inhabitants?

Tweedledee:

You and alike anti-Semites must kiss bin Laden’s ar….le for making Anglo-racism flourishing in the UK and Co, as the States have a multitude of racial problems already but not so explicitly anti-Semitic.

Israel is a skip goal for your lovely English crown from the dawn of history although deploying the Jewish state was a step in a direction of Islamist hegemony in the UK at first stage - but your lovely lords would do even this to keep their inherited places in “the most democratic parliament” warm.

MichaelK - does the 'k' stand for Khyber Pass by any chance?

Dont understand your stupid post although it appears to be in English. You seem to be accusing me of being an anti-Semite - could anyone be that dumb?

'your lovely English crown';'your lovely lords'

My what? I'm an Australian - we dont have 'lovely crowns' or 'lovely lords' whatever they may be.

'making Anglo-racism flourishing'

The only thing making 'anglo-racism' flourish in the UK is the vile behaviour and self-proclaimed treachery of resident Muslim extremists - like the ones who carried out the London attack.

Please go away. Any post you direct to me will go unanswered.

Tweedle:

So, the Zionist propagandist, aka dee, got the info - "Hezbollah and Hamas have fired over 6000 Katusha [sic] rockets at Israel over the past few years" - from "the Israeli spokeswoman at the July 24th press conference in Sydney. I see no reason to disbelieve her." I make the following points:

1) Why did you "see no reason to disbelieve her"? Do governmental spokespersons always tell the truth? Are they not employed to spin PR for their employer? Or is it the case that, to the extent they're Israeli, they're uniquely incapable of exaggeration, distortion, misrepresentation and lies, ie propaganda? Why should anyone listen to a person such as yourself who admits to no doubt whenever someone speaks on behalf of a government that's paying their salary? In other words, why should anyone listen to one so gullible?

2)Equally, why should anyone listen to you when it's obvious that you either can't read or have deliberately falsified someone else's words? Where in the slice of Zionist hasbara quoted by you in your last post addressed to me is Hamas mentioned? And, as far as the figure of 6000 is concerned it says clearly: "Hezbollah has deployed...6000 to 10000 long range Katusha [sic] missiles." It does not, as you wrote, say "Hezbollah & Hamas have FIRED over 6000 Katusha [sic] rockets at Israel over the past few years." I'm forced to conclude that you're either a deliberate purveyor of porkies or a dolt in need of remedial English. Again, why should anyone take such a person seriously?

To sum up, you've demonstrated yourself to be a peddler of Zionist propaganda, with a tendency to gullibility (useful in this field) and a capacity for misrepresentation either witting or, in the event you have a diagnosed literacy problem, unwitting. In short, you lack all credibility when it comes to meaningful and useful commentary on ME affairs. But it gets worse: You haven't even the integrity to admit any of these failings. Isn't it time you stopped insulting us with your posts?

Numbskull – I believed her because she is not the only source. Israeli Intelligence reports (those that are released) state the same. Since everything said by a Palestinian is gospel truth (like the Jenin ‘massacre’ that never happened) and everything said by an Israeli is ‘propaganda’, you best stick with the Arab press for your 'facts'.

‘ It does not, as you wrote, say "Hezbollah & Hamas have FIRED over 6000 Katusha [sic] rockets at Israel over the past few years’

You expect us to believe that 6000-10000 rockets are in this area, but none have been fired at Israel? Or that it would have been ok if only 5000 rockets had been fired? Are you for real?

‘Equally, why should anyone listen to you’

Why should anyone listen to a hypocrite who is heavy on criticism and accusations but refuses to answer the simplest question ie– what he would do in the same situation?

Everyone in the New World is living on ‘stolen land’ and there is approximately 140 years difference between Israel and Australia. What exactly is the difference between you and an Israeli, except that you don’t have to deal with the PLO or Hezbollah?

To sum up, you have demonstrated yourself to be a person without the moral integrity to admit that Australians, Americans, NZers, Canadians were in the same position as Israelis not too long ago. You are happy to live on ‘stolen land’ while criticizing Israelis. I think that’s known as ‘hypocrisy’- akin to 'people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.'

‘Isn't it time you stopped insulting us with your posts?’

Its certainly time I stopped wasting posts on you. So goodbye, enjoy living on ‘stolen land’ while you slam Israelis for defending themselves. Mind you, I don’t think you would ever have the balls to defend yourself or your country – fortunately it’s all been done for you by others, hasn’t it? If faced by a KLO – sorry, PLO – ‘fighter’ you would probably run like a little girl.

So, Tweedle is for Dee.

Although you,Dee, sound pro-Israeli, your last post to me is really stupid, especially a part separating Australia from foreign crown.

I do not know whether the UK more anti-Semitic is, but it is much less loyally royal than its dominion of Australia surely.

And I need no your reply if you think that your English entitles for such a favour.