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As Lebanon bleeds: a savage and unwinnable gambit : Comments

By Pierre Tristam, published 17/7/2006

Israel's offensive against Lebanon is an assault justified by the false rhetoric of self-defence.

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Strewth, as a matter of interest, the Economist of 29th July
mentions the "thousands of rockets" that Mr Nasrallah and Co.
have fired at Israel, with Muslims far and wide cheering him
on.

To be amazed that Israel is responding to these "thousands
of rockets" is either naive or irrational, certainly not
in any way objective.

But then as I stated earlier, methinks you are just playing
mental gymnastics on here...
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 3 August 2006 10:23:05 PM
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Has anybody noticed that figures of Israeli (sorry - make that US) rockets, shells, bombs, missiles, cluster bombs, phosphorus thingies yadayadayada are never quoted?

Every time you hear about it in the media they quote the number of rockets that have been fired by Hezbollah, but never how many Israel have fired. Israel must have fired many because they have done so much damage - but never any figures.

Why is this do you think? Who is telling them how many rockets have been fired on either side? And - if it is Israel "intelligence" or PR (and of course I'm only guessing), why aren't they telling us how many they are firing at Lebanon? Shouldn't we be being "fully informed"? Isn't that the media's role? .... Oh that's right ... I'm dreaming ....
Posted by tao, Thursday, 3 August 2006 11:25:09 PM
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If provocateurs by hording women and kids into an already dilapidated building hosting their rockets made a noise of “Israeli atrocities in Qana” worldwide, no matter how many rockets were launched at Israel but annihilating Hizballah and Co with any means possible.
Posted by MichaelK., Friday, 4 August 2006 12:59:07 PM
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Israel, Hezbollah – how does one choose sides?

Well, one doesn’t; neither has excelled in respect for civilian lives.

Further, not one single country involved in the Middle East has done anything to hasten peace. Clearly ALL Middle Eastern Leaders are more concerned over their politics and religions than they are about the lives of children, women and men. The people who actually make up the very countries and cultures mean nothing to the powers-that-be in their pursuit of winning at all and any costs.

Ultimately, the debacle that is Middle East is everyone’s fault. Yours, mine, his, hers. We are all to blame for doing nothing (except slanging off at each other) to stop the slaughter.

How many lives is it going to take before Israel feels safe?
Before Hezbollah has satisfied it objectives?
Before Moslems, Jews, Christians and the power hungry stop killing each other (and us)?
Posted by Scout, Friday, 4 August 2006 2:21:48 PM
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Well, we haven't heard from Tweedledee since Thursday. I will assume that his silence since then indicates that he's simply not prepared to stand by the propaganda re 6000 Katyushas he's been peddling.

For those with any further interest in the matter, the Israeli army's tally of Hezbollah rockets fired, from the beginning of the current war up to Saturday, was 3000. If anyone would care to provide reliable data on Hezbollah rockets fired prior to that, I'd be most interested. Certainly Israel's routine violations of Lebanese airspace and other military actions in Lebanon since 2000 are well documented.

Meanwhile, on Channel 9 news, Sunday at 9 am, it was reported that Israel had engaged in 250 airstrikes and fired 4000 artillery shells in just 7 hours.
Posted by Strewth, Monday, 7 August 2006 11:36:08 AM
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Strewth, once again you completely miss the point! If Hezbollah
fires thousands of rockets at Israel, what the hell do you think
the Israelis will do? If Israel does nothing, its considered weak
and the nutcases think they can win. If they do something, they are
doing too much. If Israel gives back land, then the claim is that
Hezbollah/Hamas won it back. If Israel goes into Lebanon to knock
out those firing missiles as Israel, then they must be wanting to
take over more land. Sheesh, arguing with some Arabs is just not
so easy :)

The problem is that there is no solution. If Hezbollah think that
they can drive Israel back into the sea, its not going to happen.
Taken to its ultimate conclusion, Mecca and Medina would vanish
first, so no more Islam, as nowhere to face for daily prayers.

If Arabs think that all Israelis should leave the Middle East,
will all Arabs living in Europe, the US, Australia etc, go back
to the Middle East, to make space for good Israeli migrants?
Now there is a question for you :)
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 7 August 2006 5:45:13 PM
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