Alberto was a Jesuit undercover priest renounced Catholicism in front of 30,000 in Guatemala,Read Alberto comic he was real as the Catholic church said he was a fictious person. I met him is Australia and said ,"hello fictious person". He was Spanish with a stronga ccnet and looked exactly as shown in pics of hid .May God rest his soul.He knew about mohammed and a plan to take the world over read "The Prophet".

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Please forgive me but what has Christ got to do with Muslim terrorism?
In what way is He involved in failure of some to execpt Australia as it is?
It could be a few posters who follow Christ are them selves a threat to Australias way of life.
However if nothing else the thread highlights the vaste difference between some of us and the simple fact the gap will widen for some time.
My view that men made all Gods remains unchalanged here, shame is some of us made him to serve only part of humanity.
And others made him to force humanity to love him.
Most however wish to harm no person in Gods name true followers of any God would be like that.
Muslims are not served by constant denials of the crimes of some in their name.

Hi Robert,

Got it this time!

Coach,

My comment to Keith explains why there can't be a conflict between Judaism and Islam on the religion/ religious practice. The Quran confirms that the only commandments ever given are to Moses and the Mosaic laws prevails until the end of time.

Your theology is at best shallow at least on Islamic theology. Here is a little example from your own writing:

“and demote him to mere prophet”
Its the other way around. Jesus never claimed to be anything higher than a prophet and a ‘metaphoric’ sentences of relationship to God. When asked about judgement day, he said ‘only the father knows it’ clearly identifying himself as a different entity than God. The same goes for talking to God on eth cross saying ‘Elahi (Aramaic for Allah) lema shabaktani. He wasn’t talking to himself or was he?

You promoted Jesus (pbuh) to God status and thats your choice. The promotion is based on philosophy and not theology since we all (ie Islam, Judaism and Christianity) agree there is only the Mosaic law & commandments.

We don't judge you for our difference on above matter we are all free to worship whciever way we like. Our position is it’s safer to stick with God is One rather than toying with what you don’t understand.

“Voila! We have ourselves a new religion”
Wrong again, Islam never claimed to be a new religion but every few verses the Quran claim to be a confirmation of the Torah and Bible.

The right statement should be “Voila! We are back in line with God commandments as all previous prophets taught: Monotheism”

The theological difference between Islam and Christianity can be summarised as follows:

- The 72 hours between Good Friday and Easter Monday: Muslims stop at Good Friday with his disappearance, no philosophy or buts and ifs.
- The philosophy of crucifix / resurrection: whether it happened or not is not a faith matter to Muslims. Gospel of Barnabos (one of banned Bible) has a logical explanation that is inline with Islamic theology.

Fellow_Human,

“Jesus never claimed to be anything higher than a prophet and a ‘metaphoric’ sentences of relationship to God.” “…The promotion is based on philosophy and not theology…”

WRONG!

Some questions you should be asking yourself are:

1. What proof does islam have that Mohammad received any revelation?
2. Why did he change the Kiblah from Yathreb (Madinah) to Kaa’ba?
3. How can Mohammad offer or promise paradise when he himself was never sure to go there?
4. Why is Jesus revered above Mohammad in the Qur’an?
5. What miracle or prophesy did Mohammed make?

Was Jesus God?

Absolutely.

Colossians 2:9 - "For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form."

Jesus says it about Himself.
The apostles say it.
It is said by the Jews and the Romans who killed Christ.
It is said in words.
It is said in actions (worship and praying to him).
It is said in miracles.

Scriptural Proof that Jesus is God:

John 5:18 - "For this cause therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him,…making Himself equal with God."

The prophet Isaiah (Isa. 7:14); declared that “the virgin” would conceive and bear a son… “Immanuel,” which signifies “God is with us”.

Jesus said: “I and my Father are one” (John 10:30).

John 1:3 - "Through him (Jesus) all things were made; …"

John 1:1 - "…and the Word was God."

John 1:14 - "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us,…”

"God said to Moses, (Exodus 3:14) 'I AM WHO I AM'; …”

"Jesus said to them, (John 8:58) 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I AM.'" (The Jews understood the significance of this statement, they wanted to stone him for blasphemy)

Revelation 22:13 "I (Jesus) am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."

John 20:28 - "Thomas said to Him, "My Lord and my God!

Coach,

You missed my point again. We can argue forever.
My truth is mine and your is yours. at the end everyone believes whatever make sense to him/her.

I accept you as your are and I don't judge you even if your faith does not make sense to me..The question is: can you reciprocate?

Peace my friend,

I note again another interjection by Irfan, with no other purpose than to insult a post that attacked his ideas.

Again, again, and again we see this in Muslims. Salam Zreika's last piece on OLO had an excellent comment that 100% betrayed her racism towards Australian culture, something like "The only area where Muslims aren't Australian is that we don't get drunk or have sex before marriage".

Any language expert, and those with commonsense, can tell you that such a statement, where the person pours out some acidic remark, reveals much about the character of that person.

It's always the same with Muslims, from community leaders to those on the street. It's under the surface, but it's unmistakeable racism. Probably comes back to how they FEEL they are always under attack.

Anybody who saw that Insight forum will know what I mean. Not one Muslim there admitted their community has problems, and one notices that whenever the conversation steers that way, the Muslim replies "But we are all Australian". They shift the responsibility for their cultural conditioning that leads to the violence we see all over western Sydney, all over Islamic diasporas in the western world for that matter.

As for bizarre comments like no sex before marriage, it annoys me that many Muslims think 100% wrong in these regards.

It's Muslim youth that are known for sleaze, who ask young Anglo females for sex at shopping malls, beaches, and so on.

It's Muslim youth who are xenophobic and hang out only with their own kind - and that ridiculous excuse of "they were picked on at school" is a classic.

While I agree that for those who came here after WWII, they were picked on, as they were the minority. My dad copped it heaps too, the British were hated bad, although, like he says, there were no knives, or twenty bashing one as there is these days