Keith,

Israel is predominently a political issue and not an islamic issue. Simple proof to that is that Jews lived amongst Muslims from Morrocco to Iraq for the last 14 centuries pre-Israel 1948. If there was any truth to your c laim "fighting jews is Islamic", there wouldn't be any Jews left by now or would there?

The 1948 UN decision partitioned a state called Palestine (not Israel) to two territories one for the jews escaping the nazis and one for the Arabs. Even though we believe it was a mistake not to accept the partition decision, there is a country called Palestine somewhere and its under occupation. The sooner there are two countries the better for everyone and I think Sharon acted cleverly with Gazza.

Peace,

Thankyou for your article Salam. I appreciate you effort to approach a topic contructively, despite the wealth of ignorance and bigotry that you no doubt expected in response (and which the majority of posters on this thread have unsurprisingly carried-out).

Fellow H and wobbles - I agree immeasurably. A person such as Salam is as Australian as anyone out there. I see no distinction. In fact, her positive attitude, love for country and universal tolerence would make her, in my opinion, exponentially more Australian than the majority of people on this board.

It's high time people stopped pointing fingers and theorising about how 'Muslims are taking over' and approach issues with an open mind. There is no difference between an Palestinian suicide bomber and an Israeli Army general firing missles at refugee camps. There is no difference between Christian intolerence and Muslim intolerence. As Salam correctly point out, beliefs come in degrees. There are extremists of every belief out there. But this does not mean that the base belief system from which they stemmed holds the same extreme views. I would have thought that was base logic...

jkenno,

You are Wrong,

"But this does not mean that the base belief system from which they stemmed holds the same extreme views. I would have thought that was base logic... "

If you mean "Islam" does not hold the same extreme views than say The Taliban - you are completely in the dark or have been living on a different planet than the rest of us.

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Fellow_Human,

“Israel is predominently a political issue and not an islamic issue.”

Camel Dust! Who are you kidding bro?

But funny nevertheless… Thanks for the laughter.

>>“If there was any truth to your c laim "fighting jews is Islamic", there wouldn't be any Jews left by now or would there?”<<

The ONLY reason that the Jews in Israel are well and truly alive is because GOD promised that it will be so until the end of time.

To the Jews, Islam is the new (aggressive) kid in town. Three million Israelis surrounded by 100 time their numbers.

Watch out God is on their side as He has always been.

"Even though WE believe it was a mistake not to accept the partition decision….”

Who is “we”? Was that a Freudian slip on your part?

Which Hat are you wearing today

Coachie, you say I am wrong, but like a lot of folks on this thread, fail to provide anything to substantiate your point. I assume you apply the same logic equally to Christianity, or does it only apply to those with a darker shade of skin?

In fact, pretty much all of your post is point-less. To say Jews have a mandate in Israel because ‘god promised so’ is both rationally misguided and plain stupid. Wake up mate. Israel IS a political issue because it is primarily about land. It would be in the same spot right now irrespective of religion. Sure, go ahead and try and turn it into something different so you can take a shot at those ‘crazy Muslims’, but anyone looking at the issue with both eyes open can clearly identify culpability on both sides, if not more-so in the one with infinite resources and American backing

Pegasus you don't know what you are on about.God wrote the Bible gave the first 5 books to Moses & holy men wrote it after that, inspired by the Holy Spirit of God.

I hate religion ,so did Jesus I am a Christian ,not "religious",it's an insult . He rebuked the show off religious priests for praying in the open and saying much ,also for wanting recognition of their religiosity and outer appearances.

People say that we all worship the one God.
No way,Jesus ,Son of God came down from Heaven to clean us up ,Read Genesis ch 1-2. The Bible was the first book on Earth.

Jesus divine ,was single,sinless,wore a robe ,taught in the Temple at aged 12 to their amazement,died and rose again ,walked ,ate and walked thru walls,was around for 50 days after crucified ,,and was seen by 500 people rise into Heaven with 2 angels alongside Him,He also said He was coming back and that Israel and Jews would be attacked and persecuted by all.

Wake up,it is happening,Iran and Muslims want Israel and Jews wiped off the map. Why ?.Because they are The Apple of God's Eye.

Mohammed ,on the other hand was an ordinary man,was deluded,had fits,was married ,divorced ,married an 8 years old girl,called for wars and revenge ,hate,taught sex in Heaven for martyrs who blow people up,never mentioned love and tolerance ,he died was buried and is dead.
While Jesus lives and is appearing in Mosques,dreams ,and visions to Muslims all over the world telling them He is the Way .
Mohammed cannot, he is in Hell. Jesus told them there is no sex in Heaven and no marriage He said they will be as angels.

Jesus said ,"I came to give you life and give it more abundantly, but the devil came to steal ,kill and destroy" John 10v 9-10.(Islam)
He aslo said to ,"bless those who persecute you,and to love one another and to turn the other cheek".
What I am getting at is that we cannot accept this religion takeover plan in Australia.

Interesting 8 pages from <frontPageMag.com> written by Gudrun Eussner PhD specialising 'among other topics' in Iranian philology and has lived in many moslem countries.
Quote: "The moslems are not living any longer in a hostile surrounding, they are almost dar ul-islam. Professor Nezvat Yalcintas, member of the Istanbul parliament made an interesting statement. During the inauguration of the Murabitun mosque in Granada, Spain in July 2003, he told an audience that 'Paris, Rome, Madrid were now components of the islamic world due to the erection of new mosques'.
But as moslems are still obliged to wage a perpetual war against those infidels who refuse to submit, the jihad is continuing in Dar ash-shahada, and people not behaving according to the qur'anic [sharia?] laws have to be punished. The trick of introducing these new definitions has had a severe impact on moslems' consciousness, especially on young moslem men. People not behaving according to qur'anic laws are to be punished stronger now.. The moslems are not any more restricted by the laws of Dar ul-harb, that has evaporated without notice, merely by changing the definition. The inhabitants of our countries are to obey to moslem male supremacy and qur'anic laws. What better a justification for conduct towards women?
The jihad against infidels is conducted on each and every level, not only as terror and suicide bombing. The jihad against women who by their behaviour in the public sphere are 'asking for rape' as the Danish mufti Shahid Mehdi, a qur'an teacher of young moslems in Copenhagen" end of quote.
But according to our resident pagans it's different in Oz. Moslems here are nice pagans, friendly pagans well they would be as they are not in the majority yet eh? The nice comforting words we hear from them, both male and female, are they 'al-taqiyya' that's lies to placate the stupid infidels? numbat