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Danish cartoons: Muslims in their own Dark Age : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 6/2/2006

Irfan Yusuf argues the worst way for Muslims to react to the Danish cartoons is with violence

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First motion was to ask, “If gods divided people to kill each other, are they absolute to believe in and be followed by?” but personal experience allows suggestion that, anyway, something very biological underlies problems where simple discrimination on the tribe’s level is it.

Maybe, decreasing influence of something imaginary (“sacred skies and cows”) and real (xenophobia towards minorities) while simultaneously increasing one-nation proudness by changing a notion of one-nation working environment to a multinational Australian job market ought to sustain more liveable and monolith society of a sovereign country rather than a continuingly segregated multicultural conglomerate of semi-dependant banana-appendix of an overseas kingdom.
Posted by MichaelK., Sunday, 19 February 2006 3:42:11 PM
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GZ Tan,

The cartoons were published last year and most Muslims had minor reaction which included protest march in major cities and some called for boycott.

The sudden recent violence attacking embassies is nothing more of right wing in our camp inflaming the naives of the Muslim world. The action was both condemned and criminalised.

If you travelled in Africa, Middle East or Eastern Europe, you will know that 'religious identity' is not exclusive to Muslims.
I can think of a dozen of cities where a T-Shirt mocking Jesus or even a local church priest can cause you serious injury or death.
Even a well travelled missionary like Boaz can confirm the above.

Boazy, what happens to a guy wearing a T-Shirt mocking a priest in Assiut, Lagos or Nairobi? (I will exclude Eastern Europe for now).
Posted by Fellow_Human, Monday, 20 February 2006 8:37:23 AM
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islamists can't handle modernity...
im the modern world u dont boycott, kill and riot over a cartoon.Islams violent standover tactics are not welcome

The Modern world is not willing to go backwards over some kooky religious beleif.

In the modern world if you don't like cartoons of your gurus u dont buy or draw them.

Islam has to get used to it, its just a cartoon lol like they really need to get a grip.
Posted by meredith, Monday, 20 February 2006 9:14:20 AM
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Fellow_Human,

"The sudden recent violence attacking embassies is nothing more of right wing in our camp inflaming the naives of the Muslim world. The action was both condemned and criminalised."

Can you tell us who "condemned" and "criminilised" the (radical) revolts?

Are these the same people who have "condemned" and "criminilised" the decapitation of the chistian school girls in Indonesia, the burning of churches in Sydney's west (to name just two)?

As for t-shirts in the Middle East I'm not so sure it depends which country I suppose. They all differ greatly depending on their degree of modernity and the type of political regime.

In Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, for example, one can still wear a cross without being spat on or abused or more...

Some other parts like Saudi Arabia - zero tolerance to anything non-muslim applies. Or this does not count for your version of islam being Wahhabi central?

Religious identity is everything in the Middle East. Mutual respect of each others Religion is nothing but a matter of survival and maintaining a very fragile and almost artificial 'peace'.
Posted by coach, Monday, 20 February 2006 10:24:30 AM
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Coach,

"Can you tell us who "condemned" and "criminilised" the (radical) revolts?"

Most newsites (public and private websites) I visited made a clear distinction that the cartoons does not justify vandalism or threatening innocent people lives. The BBC quoted many of these press releases & articles.

Saudi is a unique case which mixes politics & religion. According to amnesty many people are persecuted there whether Muslims or non-Muslims.

"Religious identity is everything in the Middle East. Mutual respect of each others Religion is nothing but a matter of survival and maintaining a very fragile and almost artificial 'peace'".

Agree to an extend, religious identity 'became' everything in the Middle East in the last 3 decades for some reason. It was never like this.
Posted by Fellow_Human, Monday, 20 February 2006 12:27:34 PM
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BLACK ARCHBISHOP SLAMS MULTICULTURALISM AND URGES BRITONS TO BE PROUD OF THEIR HISTORY
Britain's first black archbishop has launched a forceful attack on multiculturalism which, he argues, has denied English people the right to celebrate their history and national identity.

Soon-to-be Archbishop of York, John Sentamu, who was a judge in Uganda, told the UK Times: "Multiculturalism has seemed to imply, wrongly for me, that we should allow other cultures to express themselves but not let the majority culture at all tell us its glories, its struggles, its joys and its pains."

"I speak as a foreigner," he said. "The English are somehow embarrassed about some of the good things they have done. They have done some terrible things, but not all the empire was a bad idea. Because the empire has gone there is almost the sense in which there is not a big idea that drives this nation." He also warned that England would only experience further political extremism if it failed to reconnect with its roots.

"When you ask a lot of people in this country, 'What is English culture?' they are very vague. It is a culture that whether we like it or not has given us parliamentary democracy. It is the mother of it. It is the mother of arguing that if you want a change of government, you vote them in or you vote them out."

Source: Breaking Christian News
I say; Same here in OZ, the UK is the most Islamised nation in the world,most violence ,hatred,and terror but still no apologies .
A letter in today's West Australian says," stop them NOW," no more Islam,& get the muslims to swear on the Koran that they will never cause trouble again.The author He says they won't.

60 minutes last night was a sham and no good came from it as muslims will call them selves Ozzies ,but will defend their muslim ways which are violence worldwide, so open the eyes on Australia before too.Itlate, is all rage,rage,rage and more rage, from these unrepentant clones of a world gone mad with hate and terror.
Posted by dobbadan, Monday, 20 February 2006 1:57:27 PM
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