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A Lebanese 'problem'? : Comments

By Tanveer Ahmed, published 15/12/2005

Tanveer Ahmed argues there is a specific segment of the Lebanese community in Sydney causing the unrest.

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Give 'em enough rope

If you have been reading BD's posts as long as I, you would know that he believes that a wife's place is being guided by her hubby, who in turn is guided by god.
The reason I made this claim is because BD always mentions how he is married to an Asian whenever he is accused of bias. And, again, if you had been following BD's posts you would know that he isn't racist just bigoted against non-christians.

Therefore I was not assuming much apart from that of BD's wife's religion. Now can you imagine BD being married to a non-christian? I can't. However, I am sure that the inimitable Boaz will clarify this assumption for us.

I have never claimed to be better than anyone else. If you have been following my posts you would know that I have only ever asked for balanced discussions rather than constant vilification against Muslims and other non-christians.

Unfortunately I detect some malice in your heart - hope you like scrambled eggs.

;-D
Posted by Scout, Friday, 23 December 2005 12:20:20 PM
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Excuses, excuses.

You ask for balance on the one hand and then continue to make assumptions about my agenda while accusing me of malice on the other. Well, I'm calling you out.

You have shown your self to be intolerant and prejudice against those that you do not understand (myself for starters) which really gives you no credibility when it comes to commenting on the supposed prejudices of others. Put a little love in your heart brother, it's the season to be jolly, remember?

Read my last post and you decide whether I sound malicious or not.

Try not accusing people of biggotry and malice everytime they express a difference of opinion to your own.

Merry Christmas one and all.

...
Posted by Give 'em enough rope, Friday, 23 December 2005 12:32:10 PM
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Dear Scout :)

aah..BALANCE.. what a lovely word.

Here is a beautiful example of it from a Muslim Journalist from Pakistan, who I thanked personally for his insights.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2005\12\22\story_22-12-2005_pg3_2

You seem to have considerable sympathy for my wife. She has been the victim of racism from Vietnamese in her workplace, but not once from 'White' folks, they love her.

I 'guide' her mostly in matters where her overly generous personality would otherwise result in some very happy recipients, and us unable to pay our mortgage. I don't think thats a huge problem. You put far too much weight on my 'man is the head of the house' thingy, and far too little on the 'men are to love their wives AS Christ loved the Church' but then.. to mention that would require 'balance'.

Give-em.. thanx for your kind words.

BIGOTED towards Non Christians. If by that you mean I actually believe the Gospel, which differentiates between believers and unbelievers (Just like Islam) and Buddhism with its 'enlightened and unenlightened' well.. guilty as charged. There are other words which are a bit more generous u could have used "Passionate, Committed, has conviction to his principles", but hey.. bigoted will do for now. It goes with the territory.

To all non Christians,

A blessed Christmas season to all. My prayer is that Christ may be seen and known during this time.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Friday, 23 December 2005 12:43:31 PM
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Scout:

The simmering aggression is worrisome. The healing power circles and aromatherapy mud baths appear not to be working any more, perhaps it is time to wheel out the big guns, the Big Blue Bird of Happiness. Failing that, Largactyl may be of some help, at least with that nagging egg laying in the nostril thing.

You seem particularly concerned with BD, can we assume you are rabidly anti Christian by any chance, or merely racist towards Asian women. And by comparison you remind all of your own supremely enlightened insights that come from having worked with a Muslim once. Again. You breaker of bread, world weary traveller you. No doubt an opening in the foreign office for one of such broad experience.

Your manifesto:

"The secular among us on this forum are really fed up with all the bickering and wish all religious people would make a really big effort to get along with each other."

I am secular and I wish you would stop spewing this constant stream of hatred towards Christians. Beyond which "a weally big effort to get along with each other" is pure vacuity. It is surprising that an adult would write this in a public forum.

"Stating that all Muslims are bent on taking over Australia is the same as Hitler saying the same thing about the Jews in Nazi Germany."

It is interesting that you keep returning to the idea of Hitler and Nazis (here and elsewhere) when referring to insults suffered by Islam. A moments reflection on your behalf should make it fairly clear that this is an insensitive choice of comparison. You know, Israel, PLO, Islam, Jews, all that stuff... In your own words:

"Duh!"

And finally, some more of your words:

"The arrant nonsense that tries to pass itself off as cogent debate is awe-inspiring in its dearth of reason"

How wooden, how constipated, and given the context, how perfectly devoid of any serious meaning. How long did you work on that one for, it looks suspiciously laboured.

"Love to all."

I can feel it, you pompous twit.
Posted by Mr.P.Pig, Friday, 23 December 2005 1:12:39 PM
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Boaz…. Sorry for the delay.

I laughed when I read your comment decrying my question of religion as despicable. A find it’s a little like a comment from the kettle to the pot.

I need say no more than agree with R0bert. I would say you have applied at the least dubious logic and at the worst double standards to the way you treat situations – depending on their religious bent.

I don’t need nor want your prayers Boaz. They are given I would suspect in the hope that your god will find a way to ‘bring me over’. Something I would not want – nor believe exists – in a thousand lifetimes.

Wouldn’t it be better to simply pray we can find peace in our differences?

Scout,
Things I have wanted to say for some time… cheers. It is easy for some to twist the written words for another’s pain. Much harder to view those words from a new perspective and understand the intended meaning. Keep at it.

Pig,
Pompous twit indeed…
Posted by Reason, Friday, 23 December 2005 5:20:18 PM
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Do the true left ever think about reality?my lifes work is to remove Howard by winning an election.
But the real enemy of non conservatives is the real left, who use ratbag marjinalised ideas that less than 10% agree with.
It is not raceist to understand many who are Muslim will never mix with us.
Nore to be ofended by the use of the word Australian as an insult, roll on new Labor, Australias only future.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 23 December 2005 9:08:12 PM
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