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The twin failures of multiculturalism and integration : Comments

By Con George-Kotzabasis, published 9/12/2005

Con George-Kotzabasis argues Australian Muslims must be willing to cast off anything incompatible with Western culture.

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The only way to stop this 'war' is to get the leaders/representatives of each group(not the aging religious leaders etc, the young at the current coalface) to sit down and attempt to work on a solution.

on face value this is inneffective, but the problem now in this embrionic stage is lack of communication, and i am talking direct communication with eachother away from the lynch mobs.

The young lebanese must be shown the error of their mentality and thier self segregation. They have attempted to dominate others throughout Sydney for years, and are a law unto themselves on the street, with confidence and attitudes correlating with numbers.

My opinion is that they are trying to dominate others now after feeling oppression for generations. this is an opinion only though.

The young "Aussies" need to be shown that you are dealing with an extreme group that is so afraid to be persecuted due to their pasts/family past that they persecute others, and these people are inbuilt to not stop fighting until there is none of them left. they will enact revenge after revenge, so it is up to the "Aussies" to be constructive and intelligent about the solution.

Enough is enough, i can sympathise with them, but you are dealing with people with differing beliefs to yours and therefore you must have empathy for a solution to work.

The clock is ticking.

The first death will open the floodgates, Palm Island, Redfern, nothing has been seen even remotely like this before.

I hope the Mosques are insured, but one thing to love about Aussies is they will genreally only get together on the weekend for revenge, we couldnt be bothered during the week (bra boys and niche groups the exception).

I love Aussie culture!
Posted by Realist, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 12:26:46 PM
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It seems the Hobbits from the Shire have finally risen against the evil Orcs. Listening to talk back radio and reading letters to the Editor is clearly a revelation. The Shire is theirs and those entering the Shire had best behave or suffer the direst of consequences.

As a last bastion of the White Australia Policy they exhibit the worst of racism, bigotry and xenophobia.

Then we have the Orcs. Disconnected youths from patriarchal societies where women are often considered inferior, they lack respect for their elders, authority and have no ambition. They congregate in “gangs” for lack of any alternative and collectively have the largest “chip on the shoulder” of any ethnic group having assumed the role of “victims”.

Combine these two groups in Lord Howard’s Middle Earth where we have had years of subtle and not so subtle mantras on “queue jumpers”, “people smuggler” boatloads of terrorists, essential detention legislation to combat “closet terrorists” and the “alert but not alarmed” invocation.

Is it any wonder that finally serious violence erupts when we have an environment where fear and loathing is government endorsed?

As a senior Australian I am ashamed of my fellow Australians and ashamed of the Federal Government for actively promoting racism and intolerance to further their electoral advantage.

It is time to return to the woods with the rest of the Elves as Middle Earth is not as it once was and evil spreads under the influence of The Dark Lord.
Posted by Peter King, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 1:02:06 PM
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If you are living on Macquarie Island, you might be safe, but where ever it is you live Kym, make some more room: we are on the way.
Posted by All-, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 2:22:04 PM
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Heard a Englishman on telly the other day say "we made two colonies one we sent convicts to and one we sent the god squad to" seems you family got on the wrong boat DB, by Christ do you talk rot.
I say "jesus" when I stub my toe but I don't believe he existed or that there is a god. Australia is a secular country always has been and will always will been.
Just remember DB and coach while your try to sling mud that you have more in common with Muslim and Jewish Fundamentalist then with main stream Australia.
PS Coach you need to reread your religious sect history many early Christians did not believe in the divinity of the Jesus character in your little black book.
Posted by Kenny, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 12:20:51 PM
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Part One

To Aspro - It is very interesting that you mentioned Islamics fitting better into our system in the late 1970s. Accordingly, we might ask what happened in the 1980s to cause the Islamic integration problem in the West? But has it been throughout the West? France could be immediately named as being involved, but here the problem could be different, much of it blamed on de-Gaulle’s pledge to Algerians, to those who wished, to become citizens of metropolitan France. Harold Wilson made similar promises to citizens of former British colonial possessions. However, it could be believed that much of the present Islamic resentment stems from American and British intrusion into the Middle East since WW1. Mubarak of Egypt has termed it Western intrusion and injustice. Moreover, because there is definititely much proven loyalty among the billion or more Muslims in our world, despite the historical enmity between the Shias and the Sunnis, the continuing buildup of American influence in the ME since WW2 seems to have been felt throughout most of the Islamic world, including Indonesia and Malaysia.

Propelling points toward Islamic terrorism since the 1970s:

1. Israel nuclear capability given consent by the US. The argument goes, mostly from the US, that a small nation like Israel needs nuclear rockets to preserve its identity. But it could be argued that the presence of Israeli atomic superiority among Arab nations who are refused even nuclear defence capability such as Iran must have surely helped to cause Osama bin Laden to rebel against the West. Certain elements in Saudi-Arabia, bin Laden’s home territory, besides being angry about US troops in the territory, must also surely resent Israel’s nuclear rockets waiting there at the ready. Also Israel’s well-equipped air strike force, besides deciding the outcome of the two Arab-Israeli wars, was also used to take out an Iraqi part-completed nuclear installation in 1982.
Posted by bushbred, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 7:36:48 PM
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There is no country on earth where a Muslim migrant is willing to adapt to . Eventually they will take over the world, especially the way they have about three babies a year(maybe not three-it just seems that way). I've actually cut out the newspaper pictures of the Aussies returning the favour. They are framed and have pride of place on my lounge room walls. If us patriots could get rid of the scourge, then we could start on the traitors, the wiggers so willing to sell this country out. By the way why do the scourge marry their first cousins? How sick can they get. It's no wonder their IQ is about 47.
Posted by FRIEDRICH, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 7:38:32 PM
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