sorry everyone this is off topic, its continued convo with Robert from an old thread i can't open anymore as its to large for my puter

Right lets go,

1.If a minority seeks to dominate the majority through violence intimidation and threats, the majority will inevitably react.

2.Once a cycle of violence starts, it is very hard to stop.

3.The various community spokespeople and leaders in these communities must accept part of the blame for which, as they made no concerted effort to prevent the inevitable.

4.The cycle has now led to one side being involved in an armed retaliatory strike, and a fracas with police.

5.This will lead to an armed response.

6.Sooner, rather than later (given the history & culture of NW Sydney) firearms will be used in these attacks, with the result that innocent people and police are killed.

7.If this happens the army WILL become involved.

8.Who do you think they will target? (The minority or the majority?)

9.The community leaders in Sydney need to tone down their rhetoric, to prevent the continuation of hte violence. This is in their own self-interest - because if they do not - THEY WILL LOSE.

10.The other alternative is a classical 'war of attrition'. The ethnic gangs are outnumbered by several dozens to one. If the violence continues, they will be arrested at a similar rate (if not a higher rate). Within a short period there will be a noticeable lack of youths between 12-25, and their community will be open to exploitation by vengeful groups.

11. Therefore the communities involved, although not totally at fault, must accept that this is the result of their failure to restrain the elements within their own community, or they will face a very dark future.

12.The communities involved must take action now, to demonstrate that they don't just blame the wider society - but also their own shortcomings. This will require them to crack down on the sources of the conflict.

Irfan, Why if the maronites are involved in the same gangs as the rest, are they targeted by them (for instance my sister's fiance got 78 staples in his skull from such a targeted attack).

Don’t expect any sympathy from the intellectual fraud’s who claim racism, blame your own ignorant idealistic agendas, this is the “Grim Reapers” calling card, and the paradox of the left’s doing.
DB immigration is the problem and has always been the inevitable disaster, so was the Money for nothing and the welfare Idealism fraud, some of the sickening gut wrenching parasites comment above, is a sure sign they to are high recipients of Government grants and the new form of welfare and how the Sub-intellectual cognitive run to protect their own fraud: now paid by ordinary Australians work and effort based Tolerance in the form of Taxes.
The levels of existing Pathological hatred of ones own society gives no meaning to political standpoints, simply because they are the New Parasites, The Looters, Moochers, with no ability and no logical reasoning: the Progeny of newly formed simpletons. Why they persecute the host Nation to which they bleed for their misbegotten existence and wealth is ours alone; We as Australia’s need to deal with.
You have done yourselves a massive diss-service; you have just made the inconsistencies of your ability quite easy to distinguish, and not only have you exposed the fraud of Variant levels of socialist ideals, you have destroyed a great many people in your attempts to disseminate the lies and propaganda. That you will pay for, not by mobsters, but by the Intelligent you held in contempt and advice you suppressed ; because it exposed you for the Fraud you are.
Yourselves alone are to blame, and I hope the public holds you in the up-most contempt, you have earned it.
But for now we need to fix the society you have smashed and broken.

D2
Cant see how I have denigrated Australians in the manner you describe: most immigrants respect our laws and way of life; when it comes to ways of life "there's" and "ours" need not be mutually exclusive. By and large they have been complimentary.
Not all non indigenous native Ausgtralians respect the laws of the land - most do as do most immigrants.

As for living on enclaves most of the old ones have broken down, as I expect will those of this decade - if the residents are giiven a chance.

I certainly do not dislke our own culture - there are elements of it that are unsavoury - but so what - one of the best bits of our culturw is we do not have to like eveything it has to offer or every aspect of it and can say so.

I have no reason not to repsesct ohter cultures on the same basis - reject some aspects accept others - just like our own.

The cultural cringe theme relates to those people who feel threatened by other cultures - if you lack confidence in who or what you are those differences for some are frightening - that is my point. So instead of being prepared to welcome a different veiw point, agree to disagree and permit the customs to co-exist we strike out at the other one in panic - as some are scared of being over shadowed; thats the cringe - it is not found in accepting others or respecting them as you suggest.

Immigrant commuinties have been fulfilling their siide of the contract for decades in this country - most still do - and most will if given the chance and not backed into a corner; a direction we seem hell bent on taking.

Kym

Coach,

You & Meredith seem to enjoy personal attacks on anyone who have a different point of view…two words: grow up!

Thank you fro your concern about ‘where I will end up’. For Muslims, Jesus according to the Bible is as human as it gets: he prayed to God, thought God abandoned him on the Cross and confessed he does not know the hour of judgement.
In my experience people are comfortable with a view only when they stop debating and attacking opposite positions so I am hoping one day you will reach this stage.

Enjoy Christmas & all the best,

Meredith,

I really don’t understand what you are trying to say. When I commented that terrorists target Muslims you strongly disagreed, then you sent me a link to this article about civil war in Algeria which confirms my view and proves you wrong!. Please explain!

http://www.onwar.com/aced/chrono/c1900s/yr90/falgeria1992.htm

Merry Christmas and peace to all,

Fellow Human,

Firstly >>Enjoy Christmas & all the best<< thank you but I have already the best and I celebrate His birthday everyday because without Him there is no life. (it's in the bible too)

Secondly - We all need to grow up; it’s part of being human. But I see you have already reached that position >> I am hoping one day you will reach this stage<<

So Mister Wiseman what’s the matter am I getting too theological for you?? You want to run and prey on some simpler minds?

If you can’t handle the truth stop coming for more. Go clobber somebody…or some "thing"

The only problem is that you keep leaving a trail of slur behind you every time you open a dialogue for example:

>> In my experience people are comfortable with a view only when they stop debating and attacking opposite positions<<

Your position is not only opposite, contrary, different, …… it is not even remotely parallel.

You simply can’t handle it.