The alchemist,

I think I qualify to answer some of your delusions since I am not a Religious Fanatic - but someone interested in facts and truths, and who lives like you in the 21st century. I hope your scientific wits can accommodate me.

How can the scientific community explain these Facts and Truths in the lab?

1. All of God’s predictions (prophesies) have come true.

2. Historical Jesus lived, died on a cross and raised himself up again defeating death.
(A feat No other human before or since has pulled off)

Before you refute something you have to be able to prove it wrong. Right?

And the reason why ‘some people’ don’t have much of an input in planet earth is because there are (believe or not) more important matters that simple humans cannot or refuse to comprehend as long as they search for answers without first consulting the manufacturer’s manual.

Philo,

I agree – The reason is that islam is not ‘just another religion’ it is a complete social and political communal package. No matter where they may come from they all must conform to their system or else be persecuted and chastised by their own pears.

To assimilate to them is to renounce their religion – their identity – therefore become a target for reproach by their own.

So it is a lose-lose situation for all muslims. They are damned if they do assimilate and damned if they don’t.

With the rate they are multiplying in numbers I am really alarmed for the future of our nation and the world. It is a social cancer than pretends to be a beautiful freckle.

Coach, 1, name the prophesies that have come true that your god prophesied and are written in the original Greek text, that refers to the jew dissident they called jesus.

2.Which version of the so called resurrection are you referring to, the originals or one that you have read in a false translation, called the bible. You can stick your scripture, as it is totally false and worthless. But if you want to put up theological history, go for it.

Hey Alchemist - give Coach a run for his money - PLEASE.

Coach claims NOT to be a religious fanatic - you should check out his attempts to coerce me on Bashir's Thread. He claims I am arrogant for not accepting Jesus into my life.

I made the point that if Irfan or FH had made similar attempts to bring me round to Islam - the hue and cry would be heard around the globe. Coach didn't respond to that point. Selective reading I guess.

Speaking of selective reading still no response from the normally garulous BD. Very strange. Could it be that he doesn't want to admit that all he is trying to do here is to get our Muslim contributors to admit that their religion is 'wrong' and christianity is 'right'.

How pathetic.

Well as I have stated there appears to be reason to fear extremists from any religious persuasion.

I do have to commend FH's restraint. And many Happy Returns to Fellow Human - you'll never have to turn 40 again :o).
- BTW - A Harley! - only good for a straight line - guess I just prefer Jap bikes.

Anyway peace to all - even Coach (maybe you should take up dancing).

Dear Scout

so sorry it looked like I ‘ignored’ you previous post. I did look at it, and responded in my mind, but I was rather troubled by the ‘territorial’ grab well outlined by Philo and clearly presented in numerous new stories that I presume you did not read ?

F.H. I advised DEFENCE.. very Islamic :) if you believe in it, don’t criticize me. Citizens arrest is a lawful and therefore ‘Christian’ act.

Scout, I don’t know what it will take for you to see the wood from the trees, but a couple of points mate.. Did the quote from the gun crimes statistic actually register with you ?

1/ If YOU went to Cronulla beach clad in a bikini, and a number of Muslims males harrassed and abused YOU, and said you were a skippy slut and why are you on THEIR beach anyway ...... (u see, they don’t know about your ‘tolerant’ attitude here :) You would “tolerate” that?

Three years of tolerance is quite a bit you know. AMAZINGLY when the anglo/celts decide ‘enough is enough’...oops.. out come the police in FORCE...where were they when the ethnic gangs were trampling on anglo/celt/non Arab freedom of association at public beaches for the past couple of years ? Its an interesting question. Now.. suddenly. the charge . ‘you’re intolerant’... people must laugh at some of your statements..truly. I suggest you back that charge up with something other than ‘sentimental opinion’.

2/ The topic is about the ‘wrong kind of muslim’ and I believe I tackled that subject in quite a balanced manner, differentiating between the various shades of Muslim i.e.
a) Terrorist (small but dangerous)
b) Socially aggressive (More, but not a majority)
c) Moderate (Most)

3/ I responded to a question by Rancitas, so why the accusation “my religion is better than yours-ism” ?

4/ Question.

Why are we ‘intolerant’ for defending freedom of the beach when one small ethnic group who claim it as ‘their’ beach and harass non ‘them’ are not so described ? If you don’t see that as problematic you need to rethink.

That DB, in your last comment is the most important note; “THINK” they do, they think very well, just not the thought of here and now, and they seem to possess only the capacity to engage a thought process devoid of realism.
I come to understand why Left leaning mind and psychopathy correlates to negative philosophy, the Make me feel good type and rearrange the process to a more palatable edition so to accommodate their processes.
Swike sceared me the most: his account is near the exact philosophy- and the starting point of intellectual antipathy: espoused by Benedict De Spinoza.: http://members.aol.com/Heraklit1/spinoza.htm.
The similarity of ;Pantheism of newly intellectualization and Islam are similar; Islam’s Metaphysics is simple: there is none, everything is God, Much the same as other Left antipathic intellectual, to a point where they describe themselves as GOD The typical process of consciousness and to a psychological belief and are of the same subject matter. There is the correlation of Modern Left and Olden Islam. The state of mind and consciousness.
These Ingredients do not exist in any other religion, or their evolution. What we do know it is a part of Mankind’s subconscious mind is to respect a Superior being. Basic psychology and by force obviously can change conscious interpretations on who or what that being is and what it represents. And with that small brief: Where and when was that applied in History. Do people now understand why History has to be re written to accommodate the antipathy.

The alchemist,

What’s the matter you could not respond to my challenge so you use intimidation? It Won’t work sorry

For your information the old testament (where thousands of prophesies were written hundreds of years before Jesus) were in Hebrew and not Greek. But what do you care?

For someone who doesn’t respect the scripture you seem to be an expert in the subject.

People like you will demand a bacterial count before they drink from their mother’s breast. It does not matter if it is written in Hieroglyph or English you will still not believe because your are not able to.

The ball is still in your court.

Prove me wrong without the scriptures.

Scout,
Speaking of pathetic – why don’t you answer my questions if you feel so up to it? Are you worried I might hurt you or something? Stand up for yourself and stop running for cover.

Ignorance is no longer an excuse in this day and age.

Anyone can separate facts from fantasies.

The illiterate are really those who don’t want to know.

But we’ll let you celebrate Christmas anyway. Unless you prefer to join the FH clan and experience first hand how ladies are treated.