Coach

If you are not a Christian religious fanatic, I will eat my hat.

BD is a fanatic in my view (and he knows I think that), but he is not punishing and aggressive as you are. He has rigid views but he is often open to another viewpoint (if it is not about Muslim/Islam).

You do not demonstrate any of the Christian values with which I was reared. You are cunning. You are not baffling. And you are not all powerful.

Please stop harassing Scout. She is entitled to her views - just as I am.

You come across as a great big male bully (the backyard school type)! I bet BD despairs when he reads your posts. I believe that you are an emarassment to people who hold and/or practise Christian values.

Even so, I wish you a Merry Christmas
Kay

I believe we need to understand the Middle Eastern culture that for thousands of years has been based around exclusive Religious law and tribal and cultural affiliation. They are tribal and fight aggressively for territory even in their country of origin. They have never known how to share inter-racial territory, without imposed taxes upon those not of their clan and tribe. Their religion and national law is formulated upon the same cultural values they believe to be superior. A Muslim family finds it difficult to just hop on the bus to the beach as a single family and erect their own shade and join in the multicultural atmosphere on an Australian beach, they prefer to do it as a tribe. They are fixated upon tribal territory and "our captured space".

Until they can assimilate and move away from their tribal thinking we will have problems. Tribes cannot function happily in democracy, as in all tribes there must be a spokesperson and an autocratic leader. One only has to look at New Guinea to see that tribal difference has destroyed their attempt at democracy and their economy, of course nothing to do with Islam. But Islam functions within tribal parameters.

In a sense we are asking Muslims to become part of a universal and diverse secular and religious tribal society. Except that, the Aussie tribe respects the choices and values of others they disagree with. When they wish or do violate the will or acceptable choices of others then they violate the Aussie tribal law.

These separatist Muslim movements from the basic Australian society are in some sense just as disturbing as the threat of terrorism. Ask the residents of Cronulla and Terrigal.

Coach, this thread is about muslims and terror, not about religious blanks trying to show how inadequate and deluded they are. Until I know which of the “thousands of prophesies” you are referring to, then I cannot either agree nor show you where you are wrong. Just list a couple of hundred.

You should also decide as to what you are referring to, either the Hebrew book, or the book of interpreted letters written in Greek, by jews for jews, that you call the bible. The book that wasn't written by those that are ascribed to it, nor in the period you speak of. You will find the true history of those parchments, doesn't equate to your fantasy, just like the Koran doesn't equate to muslim fantasies.

Coach, we do understand how the religious blanks are deluded beyond redemption, but try to at least be consistent in your fantasy. When you are not, we don't get a good laugh. You give a good example of the deceit that the religious use, to try and disguise the inadequate truth of their psyche.

One can only wonder how many Mosques here are reading Saudi material.


Expert: Saudis Have Radicalized 80% of U.S. Mosques - Haviv Rettig

Over 80% of mosques in the U.S. "have been radicalized by Saudi money and influence," according to Yehudit Barsky, who heads the Division on Middle East and International Terrorism at the American Jewish Committee and is executive editor of Counterterrorism Watch.
For each mosque they invested in, the Saudis sent along their own imam (teacher-cleric), meaning that "the people now in control of teaching religion [to American Muslims] are extremists…Some of the leaders have even condoned suicide bombings in Israel and against American armed forces." (Jerusalem Post

Kay, nicely said.

R0bert

Coach - the only question that you have asked me was a thinly veiled attempt at blackmail.

"....there is a master of the universe - his name is Jesus - I am curious as how you chose not to believe this fact? Do you know what you are refusing to accept? Or is it mere arrogance on your part?"

I have replied to this childish attempt at intimidation.
>>http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=3860#22843<<

You would have to be the most unchristian christian I have ever encountered.

Kay & R0bert - thanks for the support.

BD - no you have not answered MY question, as follows:

Do you want F-H and Irfan to admit that their religion is wrong and your version of your religion is right?

Your repeated attacks on Islam indicates nothing more than malicious intent.

True Islam is not the religion for me - but then neither is Christianity.

I am still as fearful of religious extremists as ever.