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Being the wrong kind of Muslim ... : Comments

By Shakira Hussein, published 18/11/2005

Shakira Hussein argues moderate Muslims are as fearful of Muslim terrorists as non-Muslims are.

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Scout,
Some questions are not genuine, just waffle. Since posts here are limited it is better to use the forum to say or answer questions in line with the focus of the debate.
Now I've lost a post.
Posted by Philo, Monday, 12 December 2005 7:54:00 PM
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Dear Scout

I don't find the way you frame the question very agreeable, it reduces a commitment to God in Christ to 'winning an argument' and does indeed smack of 'My religion is better than yours'

I've maintained all along, that being Christian is about knowing Christ. Turning from all known sin, and embracing Him as forgiver, renewer, transformer and life giver. No matter how you percieve my posts, which are often couched in terms more appropriate to a 'current affairs' framework, and where I speak simply as a citizen of a democracy with legitimate interests...

My hope and prayer for Irf, and F.H. and for you, and for all who read my posts, is that they come to know the Son of God as their Lord and Saviour.

They/you might not see the gospel as clearly in my posts as I try to make it, you may mistake my 'citizen of a democracy' statements for 'religious arrogance' I can't change that, I can only reflect and search my own heart, and seek to be more sensitive to what Christ is saying to me in the context of His word, and life and witness of His Spirit in my heart.

No matter my own personal failings or strengths in my posts, His truth is still there, and it is waiting for many to discover it.
Please seek.. that you (and all) may find.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 12 December 2005 8:55:16 PM
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Scout,

>>attempt at blackmail....You would have to be the most unchristian christian I have ever encountered.<<

Thank you. I love you too. Now sit down and put away that weed you've been smoking.

You are really an annoying person... no wonder you are so independent

FACT: >>there is a master of the universe - his name is Jesus.<<

QUESTION :>>I am curious as how you chose not to believe this fact? <<

TRANSLATION: I would like you to give me a "logical" run down of the steps you took to arrive at your conclusion. Did you wake up one day and said this is my preferred option? Or was it a process? What / who influenced your theory? Etc…

Simple? (this is where you give your answer)

We will deal with >>Do you know what you are refusing to accept? Or is it mere arrogance on your part?"<< another time I don't want to cram too much down your throat in one go.
Posted by coach, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 9:58:48 AM
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Coach, we understand the depth of your fear. It is always sad to see someone so bereft of sanity that they must attack the sane. Blind faith, is just that, blind with the fear of reality.

“FACT: >>there is a master of the universe - his name is Jesus.<< “

I wonder from what orifice of your anatomy you pulled that from, although I doubt there would be much difference in what comes out from any of them. Theologically, it is god that is master and creator of the universe, Jesus is but his son bringing the word to the world. Realistically, that is just a load of deluded rubbish, but one that the tolerant sane entertain in others of lesser evolved intellect.

I am just wondering if you could answer my questions, you don't have to list the thousands of miracles, either in the new or old testaments that have come to pass, nor a couple of hundred, ten will do.

With terrorism, we can see the veracity of the religious in how they have approached the Sydney situation over the last couple of weekends. I seem to recall a religious preacher on one of these threads, promoting the assembly of locals at Cronulla. Looking at what has occurred, we can see what we may have in our future as a result of religion and its ways.

Like all the religious, you are incapable of giving answers for your despotic beliefs, until you can, you will remain a typical example of the primitive unevolved.
Posted by The alchemist, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 12:28:08 PM
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The alchemist,

I see now that you are also a psychologist, biologist, a theologian …whoa! how impressive.

I know you’re trying to make your post count but you raised too many issues here. What are you scared of? I won’t go away.

Let me tackle just a couple with my feeble, deluded, insane mind before we move on.

1. >> Blind faith, is just that, blind with the fear of reality.<<

My faith is based on solid facts. The distortions come from fearful people who cannot handle truths.

2. >> Theologically, it is god that is master … Jesus is but his son bringing the word to the world.<<

Spot on - you are right again…except for maybe a tiny insignificant detail that’s: Jesus and God are one – Jesus is ‘The Word of God.’ But we won’t use this against you, that is above even your super evolved human intellect. (It requires faith…and only God - your creator - can give you that.)

Now for the prophesies you’ve been waiting for – I’ll start with one. We wouldn’t want your brain to overheat, would we?

Please research this:

A detailed description of Jesus’ death 1000 years before He was born, when crucifixion hadn't even been invented as a way of torture.
You will find that in Psalm 22, 12-18; Psalm 34:20
This of course was reported after the facts by Jesus biographers like Dr. Luke 23:33; and one of John 19:23-24; John 19:33
Posted by coach, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 3:12:52 PM
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The alchemist, 10 December. 3856

The coach may not need my help but I am giving it anyway.

Most people are more or less equally intelligent, give or take a little. All things being equal both should reach the same conclusions, give or take a little. When two seem to disagree, the first thing they should consider is: are all things equal, or unequal?

If all things are equal, then a genuine disagreement may exist and the normal rules of debate should result in a fix. I have never witnessed a genuine disagreement (apart from a punch up). All I see is people misunderstanding each other.

If all things are not equal then a disagreement is not possible, only a misunderstanding is possible. Disagreement and understanding can co-exist, but never agreement and misunderstanding.

If you, alchemist, were to explain to coach's satisfaction, what is was you didn't believe, he would almost certainly agree with you. The chance of coach agreeing with you would be infinity -1 over infinity. Considering your misunderstanding, the chance of you guessing the one over infinity chance where coach would disagree with you is too remote to consider.

Atheists generally consider themselves super intelligent, yet no self-respecting first year university dropout would allow himself to be hung by the testicles, trying to prove or disprove a negative hypothesis.

If there is a monkey in the house, would it please leave? Gogy Gogy Gogy.

Coach,

Have you ever heard a sermon on “Don't cast your pearls before swine”. Or if rejected, when coming in the name of the Lord, “Shake the dust of your coat, against a household or a city”. If not then I suggest you look for a truer church
Posted by GoldBrick, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 2:00:43 AM
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