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Send Muslims home? Fine, I'll go to East Ryde : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 21/7/2005

Irfan Yusuf argues Australian Muslims are as worried and concerned about terrorism as other Australian citizens.

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I pointed out that the ongoing series of race hate rape attacks by Muslim men on Western women had a clear cultural basis in the Muslim religion. Muslim men wish to keep their women totally under control and they use the threat of rape as a means of keeping Muslim women housebound. Under the Muslim culture, if a woman gets raped, it is entirely her own fault, because she must have been doing something or been somewhere without escort, and that invited the attack.

Women in Pakistan who get raped and who go to the police (probably only because they got pregnant) are charged with the crime of “Allowing Oneself To Get Raped”, which (believe it or not) is a crime in Pakistan. Think I am making that up? Punch in “Amnesty International”+”Rape”+”Islam”.

Muslim men believe if a woman gets raped it is her fault. They believe that men have a God given right top punish women. They also believe that Western women are dirty sluts who need to be taught a lesson. That is the reason for the very high incidence of rape by Muslim men in Western societies. Here in Sydney, another four “brothers” of “Pakistani origin” have been sentenced today for gang raping four Australian girls and this is becoming a regular occurrence in Sydney.

Danish authorities claim that 75% of the rapes in Stockholm are committed by Muslim men. If one realises that Muslims are only 5% of the Danish population, and when you remember that more than half of the Muslims must be women and children, that gives an indication of how strong is the Muslim cultural tolerance, even approval, of rape.

The more Muslims we import into this country, the more Australian girls are going to get gang raped.. What is more important, preening ourselves as the paragons of misplaced tolerance? Or, the protection of our own young women?
Posted by redneck, Friday, 22 July 2005 5:47:42 PM
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Ranci.....(struggles to avoid a slight play on the name :).. tas...

Forgive my colorful passion, I try to make points by strong assertions. If you disagree, I welcome the fact, its always a basis for further exploration of the idea.

Ranc, PC as applied by you, in regard to communist sympathizers (or certain religious identities as Redneck pointed out) would be suicidal socially speaking. I mean, people who's lives are 'pre-committed' to your destruction are not the kind of people that any sain society would allow into its midst, (lets stay with the 'Red menace analogy for this ) and I might add, that the Socialist Web sites that I checked out some time back after the School kids protest' thingy, STILL are very clear that there will be a final and violent struggle against the Capitalist Bougois to establish the socialist Utopian dream.

Ranc, you illustrate perfectly the madness of 'universal PCness' and you also show how rediculous it is, very simply put
We put 'humanity' before ideology' ok.. for how long ? Once the 'Dictatorship of the Proletariat' is established you are out of the loop with your PCness :) in other words, you are shipped off to the Gulag.

So, PCness in such a case is self defeating and turns out in the end to be the source of brutal and inhumane treatment of other people.

I urge you to consider the 'eventual' ramifications of such a PC position in regard to immigration. Forget the silly mantra "Racism" :)
in any case, communists are not a 'race'.

You also make a good point "Its more trendy now to be un-PC" exactly :)
it was a TRENNNNND... get it ? ideas come, and go, and it reminds me of the words of Jesus "If a man builds his house on the sand, it will fall when the wind and storm comes and great is the destruction"

We need ideas/values of 'rock' mate, and dare I say it built on 'The Rock" :)

Keep up the good work
Posted by BOAZ_David, Friday, 22 July 2005 7:42:09 PM
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In writing this I may sound a moslem hater by some yet I do not hate them, perhaps feel sorry for them.By the same standard I am not blind and deaf to their - moslem - aims. Our country was blind and deaf to Adolf Hitler's aims once to our great cost.
From Omar Bakri Mohammed a moslem cleric - "We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between moslems and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value, it has no sanctity We will use your democracy to destroy your democracy"
There are others if one has his/her eyes opened. Should a person see a runaway truck heading for them the said person does not hate the killer,so to speak, truck. Yet he would do all he/she could to get out of the way and disable the truck. I feel the same to those radical moslems who hate me, my family,my friends, my country and my standards and to those 'pious' "decent" obedient moslems who will do their bidding. numbat
Posted by numbat, Friday, 22 July 2005 8:15:47 PM
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Irfan, your quote from Paul encourages me :)

Pity more Muslims haven't the same regard for his writings. More more :)

You are totally correct.. and 1 Corinthians 13 is such a beautiful passage.

I could read the first bit as "If I crusade against Islam in on line forums, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal"

Without question I must come across as 'without love' at times. I do speak as a social creature as well as a Christian. Sadly, we can't convey our heart feeling though words as well as we may like. But also, my passion is as much on behalf of those who are victimized by that which I am attacking, and Christ did speak harshly to some classes of people (scribes, pharisees, lawyers etc).

As King Solomon said "For everything, there is a time"

Harsh words are not neccessarily unloving words.

Grace and Peace.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Friday, 22 July 2005 10:28:15 PM
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Well, I don't care if it rains or freezes
Long as I have my plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
I could go a hundred miles an hour
Long as I got the almighty power
Glued up there with my pair of fuzzy dice

Plastic Jesus, plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
Through all trials and tribulations
We will travel every nation
With my plastic Jesus I'll go far

I don't care if it rains or snowses
Long as I got my plastic Moses
Riding on the dashboard of my car
Through all trials and tribulations
We will travel every nation
Me and plastic Moses will go far

I don't care if it rains or freezes
As long as I've got my plastic Jesus
Glued to the dashboard of my car
You can buy Him phosphorescent
Glows in the dark, He's pink and pleasant
Take Him with you when you're travelling far

I don't care if it's dark or scary
Long as I have magnetic Mary
Ridin' on the dashboard of my car
I feel I'm protected amply
I've got the whole damn holy family
Riding on the dashboard of my car

I don't care what they say, I'm gonna
Keep on prayin' to that pink Madonna
Melted to the dashboard of my car
Goin' ninety, I'm not wary
'Cause I've got my Virgin Mary
Guaranteeing I won't go to Hell

I don't care if it bumps or jostles
Long as I got the twelve apostles
Bolted to the dashboard of my car
Don't I have a pious mess
Such a crowd of holiness
Strung across the dashboard of my car
Posted by garra, Friday, 22 July 2005 11:11:35 PM
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redneck, are you trying to argue that it is purely the theological teachings of Islam that lead an extreme minority to commit gang rape? How do you explain the vast vast majority of muslim men going about their day without participating in gang rape of young women? Are you trying to argue that gang rape is culturally determined?

It's interesting that you've decided to overlook the Australian history of gang rape by the Anglo-Saxon colonisers of Australia. Why did they gang rape Aboriginal women? Do you explain the gang rape by our Anglo Saxon colonisers (who were predominantly Christian) the same way you explain gang rapes by the Arab-Australians (who are predominantly Muslim?) as a product of their culture or religion? Let's not forget either the equally horrendous acts of violence against women in White Western communities by White Western men. So much for protecting your Australian women (a belief you so obviously subsribe to) against the non-White [and non Christian] other.

I suggest you examine how patriachy operates within different cultures before you make sweeping generalisations about Islam on the basis of the conduct by a compartively tiny percentage of muslim people.

...and bloody hell, hasn't the Christian vs. Muslim world view reared its ugly head.
Posted by strayan, Saturday, 23 July 2005 2:43:24 AM
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