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Heads in the sand on terror : Comments

By Waleed Aly, published 14/7/2005

Waleed Aly argues some Muslim clerics may be delusional but it doesn't mean they support the actions of terrorists.

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Wow.... Johny, some1 is up early for a saturday morning.

As you are new to the forum, it is understandable that you have picked up on only the 'current emphasis' of most of my posts, which are in the context of mostly RELIGiOUS threads, and therefore you would have missed a truckload of 'reasoned debate' particularly with Pericles, and others, on more of a 'reasoned/philosophical' nature.

The interesting thing is, that I seldom make 'biblical quotes' and in this thread, I've made none :) so... where is this coming from ?

I'm smiling as I write this Johny, because in this thread the ONLY person to quote the bible is XENA :) and then, (bigger smile) its TRINITY who berates the 'bible quote' mob :) er.. this would be XENA ?

So, Johny, unless your referring to another thread, I could be forgiven for detecting a '10' on the 'anti Christian bias meter' :)

but if there was a thread on 'punk rock' I'd be joyful to engage with you. One of my favorites is "the failure of secular humanism" or.. "The despairing emptiness of existentialism"

You are RIGHT... this is not the BOAZ forum, but he has just as much right to share Christian thinking as you have to share Secular.
Johny, we can debate morality, industrial relations, Left vs Right, Communism/Capitalism all good. But I will (as a Christian) inject a particular flavor to that debate. by the way, 'truth' is something which is very flexible. To a Marxist "Capitalism is futile" is truth, when in fact it may 'contain' truth, but is more of a doctrine.

XENA.
when you do quote the Bible, (specially the Ezekiel verse) please answer the following:
-To 'whom' were those words spoken
-About who ?
-Why ?
-How was it fulfilled ? (was it ?)

In other words, please avoid cheap shots.

Then we can talk :)

Johny...are u noting ? "No biblical quotations..only a reference to Xena's)
Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 16 July 2005 7:41:07 AM
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Sheesh, Boaz - whose up early? I thought it was bedtime.....

Now pedantry will get you nowhere, mate. I have read other threads, duh, like CEO's should get christ and such. Yeah, absolutley pertinent. But you are picky aren't U? No you haven't made any CHRISTIAN bible references on this particular thread - they're just every else ad nauseum. And now maybe you won't make any. We can only pray.

Becoz you ignored most of my post and becoz I'm about to go to bed I will repeat my post. Lazy? Maybe. So were you to focus on only a small part.

Good night, don't let the bed bugs bite.

"To the non believer reading your posts does indeed appear infantile. I see no effort or your part to engage in positive debate with people of differing opinions and differing religious beliefs.

You state "Pick me up when I start peddling 'untruth' " to the non believer your bible quotes are non truths. It is a shame that you don't understand this.

Both timkins and trinity have made good points. This debate goes nowhere while you try to insist that your religious beliefs are the only way. Please try and see the debate from another perspective."

Try to relate to others Boaz baby - I'm sure you're intelligent and erudite - but this anti Islam rant is going nowhere
Posted by Johnny Rotten, Saturday, 16 July 2005 8:05:31 AM
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BD,

You just confirmed your own double standards.
You asked Xena to confirm and explain the context of the killing and slaying in the bible, but these rules does not apply to the Koran verses!..I am out of words..at least I can say missionaries I met in North Africa were honest and fair in quoting from the Quoran.

AK
Posted by Fellow_Human, Saturday, 16 July 2005 9:54:57 AM
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Goodness BD, you do have a thick hide or are you just a glutton for punishment? At least your posts make some sense.

Irfan, it is not what some people on this forum may or may not think that is important (and you really would not know), but what the great mass of Australians might think if the suicide bombings go on and if Australian muslims are found to be involved. However, you do seem to have some easy potential converts for Islam on this thread.
Posted by David Palmer, Saturday, 16 July 2005 1:32:43 PM
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Timkins, Trinity and Johnny - thanks for your astute and interesting posts. Good reading.
Posted by kalweb, Saturday, 16 July 2005 4:29:10 PM
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David - I am an atheist - the more I see of religion the more I reject it. However, I cannot help but notice the most divisive hate filled posts are from fundamentalist christians. I would no more convert to Islam than I would to christianity. However I respect others rights to believe in flying monkeys if thats what they want - just don't expect me to agree.

I support all people actively working together against terrorists. And hate rants merely feeds the rage of terrorists.

Peace.
Posted by Trinity, Sunday, 17 July 2005 2:08:35 PM
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