& what about Dresden fool?
1000's of innocent germans bombed because of the foreign policy of their country. 100% justified.

Sayeret - I think the word "fool" accurately describes you (with "murderous" as a good adjective preceding it).

"Peace" said don't attack people who haven't attacked you.

Obviously that doesn't apply to Nazi Germany - in whose footsteps the neocon fascists of the US have chosen to follow.

Blah, blah, blah. Don’t you lefties ever get sick of being wrong? You’ve been wrong on just about everything for the last 60 years! Peace going on about “The important part is that any civilians killed is too many and must be avoided” is hypocritical lip service at best. If you really gave a toss about the murder of civilians you should welcome the US actions in Iraq. Saddam murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people, yet not one word from the left.

The left danced to Hitlers tune in WWII (and only turned against him when he betrayed Comrade Stalin). Since then they’ve danced to the tune of Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Min, Pol Pot, Castro and these days they’re running around apologizing to Bin Laden, blaming the victims of September 11, absolutely ignoring the atrocities of Saddam and without a hint of shame, referring to the evil terrorists in Iraq as “freedom fighters”. The only freedom these things are fighting for is the freedom to go back to favoured status under Saddam.

The left are so quick to make up ulterior motives for the US and Britain but you can be sure they’ll remain silent on the French and German motives for not going to war. Haven’t heard too much either about the beloved UN and the absolute corruption with the “oil for food” scandal.

It’s really quite sickening that people like biggav hate America so much that they are willing to ignore (or condone) any amount of human evil as long as it can be used against America. I’m just glad that these attitudes of the left are being listened too by fewer and fewer people. It won’t be long until they disappear completely into the mists of irrelevancy.

Bozzie - you should read the preceding posts before jumping in and putting your foot straight in your mouth.

As I've said several times before - I'm a right-winger - a libertarian - and always have been. And I'm ashamed and disgusted by what some supposed "right wingers" are doing nowadays.

Many of the people I've quoted are also right wingers - people who detest the neoconservative fascist regime aren't confined to left wingers. Neoconservatism is a cancer within right wing politics which urgently needs to be removed.

American Conservative magazine said the following in the lead up to the last US presidential "election" (the vote rigging now endemic in the US is another scandal which urgently needs sorting out):

"Bush has behaved like a caricature of what a right-wing president is supposed to be, and his continuation in office will discredit any sort of conservatism for generations. The launching of an invasion against a country that posed no threat to the U.S., the doling out of war profits and concessions to politically favored corporations, the financing of the war by ballooning the deficit to be passed on to the nation’s children, the ceaseless drive to cut taxes for those outside the middle class and working poor: it is as if Bush sought to resurrect every false 1960s-era left-wing cliché about predatory imperialism and turn it into administration policy."
(http://www.amconmag.com/2004_11_08/cover1.html)

Longtime Republican politician Pat Buchanan has also recently noted the this new US attempt at fascist imperialism is doomed to fail -
http://amconmag.com/2005_03_14/buchanan.html

As for the Iraq oil for food "scandal" - I think you are pretty ignorant of the facts about this particular episode. For your enlightenment, the US engineered the whole thing in the first place, and the subsequent witchhunt is simply a disgrace.

UN arms inspector Scott Ritter describes how this "scandal" is just a smokescreen created by the neocons to justify their illegal invasion of Iraq - http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1212-23.htm

Unfortuately it seems like their are plenty of unprincipled and morally bankrupt people like yourself willing to excuse any criminal act so long as it's labelled "freedom".

BIGGAV, If you are a right-winger I am Micky Mouse. You are saying just what a member of the Politboro in the Kremlin would say. You can't say one good word about the USA.

Read your post of March 8 at 8.12pm and then tell me it was not me you were telling that Australia had not declared war.

I don't look out the window looking for fanatics set to attack me. They obviously stay under wraps until ready to attack. Grow up.

You say there are 2.2 milion in prisons [the American gulag] They are in jail for murder.rape and other criminal offences [not politics ]and you know it. You are talking bull and everyone knows it.

Have you ever watched Fox News with Bill O'Reilly? He and his co-hosts give both sides a good hearing and your talk of "Pravda" is just more of your crap.

You waffle on about the mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners. It shouldn't have happened, but it's not in the same category as terrorists hacking off helpless civilian hostages's heads , and mutilation of American casualties. Barbarians and cowards, and not a word of criticism from you, because obviously you want them to win.

You say one organisation has counted 18,000 dead Iraqi civilians. Then it's 100,000 and then approaching 200,000. Wild guesses. How many did Saddam torture and murder? Get it into perspective. Would you rather Saddam was still in control, with his sadistic crazy sons raping, torturing and murdering at will? I think you are so blinded by bitter hatred of America that you really would prefer Saddam. That's why no one is giving you any credibility.

Al - you are an idiot.

I am indeed a right winger, as are many of the sources that I have quoted. Its entirely possible to be a right winger and oppose fascism, even if you don't.

As for your stupid request that "Read your post of March 8 at 8.12pm and then tell me it was not me you were telling that Australia had not declared war." What I said was :

"For the guy who thinks we are in a state of war - you are clearly mistaken - Australia hasn't declared war on anyone, and nor has anyone declared war on us. You really need to calm down before making such rash, and obviously untrue, statements."

I was responding to Sayeret (Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:55:21 AM), who said:

"We are at war. It's about time you woke up."

Learn to read before posting you fool.

Your continuous apologies for the war of aggression perpetrated by the US in Iraq so that it can steal their oil is disgusting.

I'll quote George Washington, who was a decent american president, unlike the smirking chimp:

"A passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation facilitates the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, infuses into one the enmities of the other, and betrays the former into participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification ... It also gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens, who devote themselves to the favorite nation, facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country.
- George Washington, Farewell Address, 1796"

Love your own country, not a foreign one !

As for Bill "SHUT UP!" O'Reilly, he's just a clown and a thug - watch Outfoxed (http://www.outfoxed.org) and learn something about the Republican propaganda machine and Mr O'Reilly in particular.