biggav, first you claim Saddam has no WMD's , now you reckon he had no shredding machines. Next you'll be nominating him for membership of Rotary! Have you got any of that whitewash left over, so you maybe can spruce up Idi Amin and Pol Pot.

You scoff at "sleepers" yet the fanatics who carried out the September 11 attack were exactly that. How many more are there in the US and other countries including Australia? We don't know but we have to protect ourselves the best way we can, even if we step on toes.

You mention Joe Stalin. You are one of the most anti-American people I've come across. [That's not intended as a compliment! ] If Old Joe could read your stuff he'd be grinning through his moustache. He's said it all before.

Big Al, you really do live in a neocon (fascist) fantasy world.

Yes - Saddam didn't have any WMDs. All the UN weapons inspectors said this (Butler, Ritter and Hans Blix). Many US, UK and Australian intelligence officers said this. The neocons ignored all the evidence, lied to us, and invaded a country that posed no threat to anyone except its own citizens.

The "human shredding machine" story was also a lie, as was the first gulf war's "throwing babies out incubators" story.

Basically the whole Iraq episode has been a disgraceful case of the US murdering tens of thousands of innocent civilians in order to steal iraq's oil.

The "sleepers" you imagine (and there have been no successful prosecutions of these imaginary terrorists) are just part of the neocon campaign of fear - wake up - and watch the Power of Nightmares - you might learn something.

At least you've stopped arguing against the facts that the neocons (fascists) controlling the US government are running concentration camps and are assassinating reporters.

I note that US Senator Robert Byrd has condemned Bush for following in Hitler's footsteps - and when the senior senator, who was around to witness the previous fascist atrocities of world war 2, says this, you should pay attention :

http://www.gnn.tv/headlines/1334/Senator_Byrd_is_Correct_to_Equate_Bush_With_Hitler
http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/7/2005/1084

"The U.S. Senate's senior Constitutional scholar has correctly equated Bush with Hitler, and the usual attack dogs are howling.

But they are wrong, and Americans now must the harsh realities of an increasingly fascist and totalitarian GOP."

And with reference to Saddam Hussein - I agree that he was a tyrant and a war criminal - he should face trial at the International Criminal Court, and he should hang for his crimes.

There is a good article describing the ideal situation here:
http://biggav.blogspot.com/2004/12/some-historical-notes-on-iraq-q-who.html

Of course, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Perle should also be up in front of the ICC on war crimes charges related to their actions in Iraq. Rumsfeld and Cheney should get to share the same trial as Saddam as well, as they backed his assualt on Iran in the 1980's.

Obviously the Smirking Chimp and his neocons (fascist) want to have another go at Iran - which is looking likely to happen soon:
http://www.energybulletin.net/4634.html

I'm glad to see Canada is now advising the US that they should adopt democracy as their system of government, rather than the totalitarian state they have been assembling. Well done Canada !
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/westview/story/2610442p-3026695c.html

By the way, as you may have noticed from the articles and speeches by Robert Kennedy, Senator Byrd and others that I've linked to, the realisation that the US is now a fascist state is becoming widespread.

Right wing politicians have also picked this up and begun agitating for change - for example, Republican Congressman Ron Paul has objected to the tyrannical police state that now exists in the US, on prominent conservative Lew Rockwell's site (http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul218.html) and right wing antwar site antiwar.com (http://www.antiwar.com/paul/?articleid=4189). Lew Rockwell also makes the case that the Bush administration is a clear and present danger to freedom (http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/red-state-fascism.html).

Talk radio host Thom Hartmann has written a series of articles examining the rise of fascism in america too (http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0719-15.htm, http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0222-22.htm, http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0110-33.htm, http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1220-20.htm) as has journalist David Neiwert (http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/The%20Rise%20Of%20Pseudo%20Fascism.pdf).

I think anyone who believes in freedom and democracy should be making a stand and demanding the impeachment of Bush and his cronies.

Big Pav,

"Steal Iraqs Oil"..

I take it you work & have a mortgage.

What do think is a fair price to pay for petrol?
$1 / litre, $4, prehaps $5......

Be Honest mate!

Sayeret, the price for your cheap petrol is 100,000 murdered Iraqi citizens, including women and children. Be honest now, how does that make you feel, mate?

Sayaret,

I'm not willing to have anyone killed just to make my petrol a bit cheaper - but I'm glad you're being honest at last instead of just spouting propaganda.

As I said before I'm a libertarian - a free market in oil should decide the price (something which has only rarely occurred in the history of the oil market) - and that means Iraqis should be free to sell their oil at whatever price the market is willing to pay - and denominated in whatever currency they choose (there is some speculation that Saddam's worst crime from the US point of view was announcing his intention to begin selling oil priced in euros).

While fascists pay lip service to the idea of free markets they always prefer market control in practice (which they make sure works in their favour, usually at the point of a gun).

In any case, a belief that US control of the world's remaining oil resources will somehow keep the petrol prices we pay down is naive to say the least.

Firstly, US oil companies are major backers of the Bush administration - and they'll be wanting a hefty return on their investment in him - and that means high petrol prices (the recent strength of the A$ has insulated us a lot from the big rises in oil prices recently, but they will start to bite eventually).

Second, world oil production will be peaking at some stage in the next few years - and the US intends that it won't be suffering fuel shortages (at least initially) - but of course for us in Australia it will be a different story.