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America is doing it right in Iraq : Comments
By Alistair Campbell, published 28/2/2005Alistair Campbell argues that the US was justified in invading Iraq and installing a democracy.
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Posted by Sayeret, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 7:57:30 AM
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Actually, Sayeret, while biggav's prose is a little intemperate, I agree in general with his/her assessment of US imperialism and Australia's obsequious servility. In particular, your naive claim about jackboots, gulags etc has been effectively refuted.
While I think that it's a bit extreme (yet?) to characterise the USA as a totalitarian state, it is certainly moving in that direction, and we are following slavishly along, as befits a client state in an empire. We are now effectively a one-party state, and we will reap the bitter harvest of this after July when the Ausralian puppet government begins its legislative program at the behest of its neocon US masters. There will be civil and industrial unrest, which we are now beginning to witness in the Aboriginal ghettoes and suburban wastelands. We probably deserve it. Morgan Posted by morganzola, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 10:04:30 AM
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Biggav, I suggest you laugh as much as you can because you really have bugger-all to laugh about. You are talking a lot of crap.
Oil pipelines: The terrorists are continually attacking and blowing these up. Iraq's economy is going to depend on oil. Would you rather have these terrorist butchers [whom you never criticise] controlling the oilfields? Gulags: You betray your appalling ignorance by equating the Russian gulags with the prisons you name. Gulags were full of hundreds of thousands of innocent Soviet citizens whose only "crime" was to write a poem about religion, or grumble about the regime, or something we would think nothing of. They were sent to freezing labor camps where they were worked, to death on starvation subsistance. Others were tortured to death or shot in KGB prisons like Lubyanka, or certified insane and sent to "psychiatric prisons". The people in your nominated prisons were captured terrorists, who were not starved, worked or frozen to death., shot or driven insane with drugs. If you can't see the difference, it says a lot about your level of intelligence. 2am doorknock. Read as for gulags. Hundreds of thousands at any one time, How many have been arrested under the Patriot Act? When you re in a country which has suffered 9/11 you are entitled to be strict on security when there are undoubtedly plenty more "sleepers" waiting orders from Osama. You complain about journalists being assassinated. You don't say who. People are being assassinated by terrorists every day but no complaints rom you. They hack off people's heads, No complaint from biggav. You claim to be a libertarian, yet you would deny the Iraqi people liberty from the cruel and sadistic regime of Saddam and his sadistic crazy sons. You are a phony. You sneer at me for my admiration of certain American Presidents. Don't you admire Nelson Mandella? Is that disgusting too? Posted by Big Al 30, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 12:39:42 PM
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Guys - don't get so excitable - you really should watch that "Power of Nightmares" documentary I linked to - this campaign of fear the neocons have been waging is obviously affecting you deeply (and if you read the other link to the article about the 14 aspects of a fascist nation, you'll see keeping the population in a state of fear is part of the way the system works).
Osama's sleepers - that one made me laugh - just like the Al Qaeda plot to kidnap Russell Crowe that was breathlessly announced on this morning's news. I imagine the guy who makes these stories up is the same one who came up with the "Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators" during the first gulf war and the "human shredding machine" before the invasion of Iraq. As for assassinating reporters ? Surely you jest - the news has been full of it the past few days. In case you haven't been paying attention, have a read of "Add Counting Bodies to The List Of Dangers" (http://biggav.blogspot.com/2005/02/add-counting-bodies-to-list-of-dangers.html), "The War On Reporters" (http://biggav.blogspot.com/2005/03/war-on-reporters-even-after-posting.html) and "The War On Reporters II" (http://biggav.blogspot.com/2005/03/war-on-reporters-part-2-some-more.html). As the BBC reporter noted - if you want to be a journalist in occupied Iraq, you have 2 choices - embed or die. Uncle Joe Stalin would be proud of monkey boy and his men. Posted by biggav, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 8:11:16 PM
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(sorry about multiple postings but the 350 word limit is a bit restrictive)
For the guy who thinks we are in a state of war - you are clealry mistaken - Australia hasn't declared war on anyone, and nor has anyone declared war on us. You really need to calm down before making such rash, and obviously untrue, statements. And as for comparing the american concentration camps at Guantanamo bay, Abu Ghraib etc with the gulags - the similarity is clear and undeniable - and the disgusting acts of torture performed by american soldiers at these places should make you ashamed of the foreign fascist leader who you wish to create a personality cult for. The propaganda machine you are mimicking is on a loser when it tries to deify the likes of monkey boy and even that amiable clown Ronald Reagan - check out "Outfoxed" for a great segment on Fox News' (the US version of soviet Pravda) abject failure trying this personality cult stuff with Ronnie. Posted by biggav, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 8:12:09 PM
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US Imperialism? ... There are only 2 countries in the world that can truly say that they are the result of US 'imperialism'.
JAPAN & GERMANY. Which armchair critic would like to discuss the abject failures of these experiments, & list the failures of US foreign policy in relation to these two PARAIH states of WW2 , whose rhetoric at the time reflects the Islamists of today. [See Kyoto Conference 1942] Posted by Sayeret, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 8:18:30 AM
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He thinks the 'jackbooted Americans are coming to get him at 2am'. All because his government wants to fight terrorism.