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Will the Ukraine stalemate spawn climate catastrophe? : Comments

By Andris Heks, published 7/6/2022

It is not every day that you hear two of the world's shrewdest senior voices in international affairs, George Soros and Henry Kissinger agree.

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As to your claim Armchair Critic:

'war on coal, on the one side, and Albo increasing the Climate Change targets on the other. It seems like a complete disconnect to me.'

No, I think it is a perfect connect.

Not only is coal the major contributor to climate warming, it is also the most inefficient and most expensive fuel for running power generators.

An important reason for our black out crisis has been the breakdown of a staggering one third of the Morrison-Barnaby Jones-loved coal generators in Australia.

They are the most unreliable and expensive power generators.

The sooner the subsidies for them and much more are spent on the cheaper and more efficient renewable power generators, the quicker we move out of the threat of blackouts while simultaneously not contributing more to a climate catastrophy.

All the best Foxy.
Posted by Andris, Saturday, 18 June 2022 2:22:49 PM
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Hi Armchair Critic,

I can only speak from my and my family's own
experiences. As you probably know - my family
experienced life under the soviet regime.
They lost everything. Their country, family
members, and much more. I was born in Australia.

I know that the West is not perfect and mistakes
have been and still are being made. But from
my family's experiences - I prefer the West to
any totalitarian regime.

We all hail from a myriad of backgrounds, ethnicities
and family structures. Many of us think differently.
Papa taught me that no one should make the assumption
that we all grew up in the same buble.

Diversity and tolerance are important and it must of
course be afforded to political minorities. We
should be celebrating diversity of thought - in the
same way we celebrate all other forms of diversity
sharing unique experiences and offering varying
viewpoints. This can only strengthen a society more.

We are fortunate that in our country we can do this.
In present day totalitarian countries - you'd end up
in jail or dead - if you tried.

The UN Secretary-General Ban Ki Moons stated a few years
ago that:

" We're living through a period of global transition. New
centres of power and economic dynamism are emerging.
Technology is connecting us ever more closely, and
cross-cultural exchanges are deepening every day - but this
does not mean there is more understanding. Societies are more
diverse but intolerance is on the rise in too many places."

"Poverty, hunger and disease remain at unacceptable levels.
There are no individual solutions to these multi-faceted and
inter-related challenges. We can only advance as a community
of nations and cultures drawing on human solidarity and
recognizing we share a common destiny. "

Hi Andris,

Thank You for your kind words.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 18 June 2022 3:49:09 PM
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Oh Andris, you comment on the generators is way off the mark.
Everyone seems to think they should never breakdown or need
maintenance at any time. If the dills did not go around blowing up
power stations then we would have continued to have plenty of backup.
Imagine being that stupid not to mothball them, just in case !

Then the regulators gave priority access to the grid to the renewables
so the power stations just sat there twiddling their thumbs while
going broke.
BTW, I see one of the windfarms in NSW has shut down because they went broke.
Does anyone know if Hazlewood has been dismantled ?

All this kerfuffle is because so many people have been taken in by the
global warming rubbish.
Give me the answer if it is caused by CO2 why does the temperature
rise first and then the co2 rises ? Bit A up isn't it ?
Anyway, this warming is just another cycle of many, the last one was
about 900->1000 ad.

What gets me is how grown men & women are that deficient in the ability
to see what could possible go wrong and hang on to the stations just
in case they might be needed. And we put them in parliament !
Aaaaarrrrgggghhhh !
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 18 June 2022 4:16:50 PM
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Now of course I read that the government is preparing legislation
to be ready for the first meeting of the new parliament to enforce
the 43% reduction in co2 and ensure 80% renewables by 2030 !
Of course already we must have only electric cars by 2030.
I think they have gone totally insane with the complexity they face
and not being able to handle it just have no idea what they are doing
and do anything that someone suggests.

They seem to have no idea of the scale of what they are suggesting.
eg, unfortunately I do not know the maximum output of the panels
that are being used in the solar farms, but the grids max demand is
about 50 Gwatt I believe.
Divide 50,000,000,000 by say 1 Kw and that is the number of panels
that need to be in full midday sunshine.
If the panels are 2Kw than halve the result.
How many panels could a man place onto the frames, connect them up
then get the next one in a day.
Can you see why they reckon it will generate 260,000 jobs ?
However those figures are on mid day sunshine, what is the output
at 4pm on a winter afternoon ? About one third the midday figure.
So if the wind is still not blowing they need three times as many panels.
Even if my guesses are quite wrong, it will still be the same problem.
Then there is the number of wind turbines needed at night when the
wind naturally dies off. The wind is a much more difficult figure
to work out, at least the sun always rises and sets, if not overcast.

Then they want to back it all up with batteries. Sigh.
How many days must they store for still overcast days.
When flat where will they get the power to recharge in one sunny day ?
Grown, they really have gone mad !
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 18 June 2022 4:49:23 PM
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BAZZ you say:

'All this kerfuffle is because so many people have been taken in by the
global warming rubbish.'

Yes, 99% of the world's scientists has consensus on human induced catastrophic global warming.

Most of the remaining 1% are bought by the fossil fuel industry to lie.

Yet you know better than the scientific consensus about what is rubbish.

The debate has long been over.

Those who want a livable planet ACT.
Posted by Andris, Saturday, 18 June 2022 9:28:59 PM
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No Andris, 99% of scientists do not believe in global warming.
That idea was knocked on the head years ago.
Please explain why the temperature rises and then the co2 rises ?
Anyway it does not matter we have an energy problem right now.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 19 June 2022 4:24:28 AM
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