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Will the Ukraine stalemate spawn climate catastrophe? : Comments

By Andris Heks, published 7/6/2022

It is not every day that you hear two of the world's shrewdest senior voices in international affairs, George Soros and Henry Kissinger agree.

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A conspiracy theory implies a group making plans on the qt and doing
it undercover.
The Davos assembly is not secret and publicises its aims.
Their members are well known political leaders such as the New Zealand PM.
Their policy is known as the Big Reset !
One of their mottos, "You will own nothing and be happy"!
There is more info but I do not have it to hand.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 10:45:28 PM
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AC

The positions of power are allocated to cowards: Otherwise known as “Yes” men. And we should use the term “man” loosely here.

Robbie Burns nails it:

*…Is there for honest poverty that hangs his head and o’r that; the coward slave we turn aside, we d’o be pure for all that…But the honest “man” tho a’r so pure, is king of men for o’r that…*
(from memory).

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 7:04:05 AM
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Hey Bazz,
If we went back 10 or 15 years, Agenda 21 and Bilderberg were still largely unknown.
Anyone who mentioned them was labelled a tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy nut.
It wasn't until 2015 that the UN announced the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development,
- with the included Sustainable Development Goals (SDG), that made the relatively previously unknown Agenda 21 obsolete.

If you watch this video from 2013, we can go back and see just how little was known about it back then.
Australian Politician - Ann Bressington Exposes Agenda 21 and Club of Rome
http://youtu.be/oMSyIm66U2g

Now if you go to this next video, (you only need to watch a minute or so)
- skip forward to 5 minutes and 30 seconds, you'll start to understand what happened;
Essentially what happened was they went from something that was a plan to 'transform human society'
which had previously gone 'under the radar' and 'operated within the shadows'
- to something that moved into 'sales-pitch mode'.
"You can't hide it, so you sell it".
http://banned.video/watch?id=6261c713edbd25224cab3548

Now if you go to the UN website and look up Agenda 21.
- It's there on the website, as though it was there all along.
http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/outcomedocuments/agenda21
But that's not how it was.

If you looked through google search engine results and YouTube,
the links to info on websites and YouTube videos trying to expose it when little was known
Well all those google search engine results and YouTube videos are now gone.
- Like they never existed in the first place during those years around say 2005 to 2015.
They've made it look like it was all just known public policy.
- Rewritten history for public consumption of the next generation -
Anyone who went and looked would think it was never hidden from the publics view in the first place.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 8:45:30 PM
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Hey Diver dan,
"Otherwise known as 'Yes' men. And we should use the term 'man' loosely here."

I could think of another term, but it's not very dignified.
It's what they're calling Mel Brooks character as he shuffles over to them with his bucket.
http://youtu.be/JGfXiIXTpE0

- As far as Ukraine and climate change goes, Germany is reactivating coal plants, and Poles have been told to forage for wood.

"As Germany closes its last nuclear reactors, it is also reactivating old coal power plants to ensure electricity supply security amid Russian threats to turn off the gas tap.
Germany’s attempt to simultaneously phase out nuclear and coal power just got significantly more complicated. Once envisaged as a transition fuel on the way to renewables, fossil gas is being reconsidered in Germany after Russia invaded Ukraine."
http://www.euractiv.com/section/energy/news/germany-reactivates-coal-power-plants-amid-russian-gas-supply-threats/

"Authorities in Warsaw have allowed citizens to forage for firewood in forests to keep their homes heated amid spiralling energy costs. Poland is in the midst of a coal shortage after banning Russian imports... Branches should be taken to the local forester, who will issue an invoice. Collectors will have to pay between seven and 30 zlotys ($7.02) for approximately 0.25 cubic meters of firewood."
http://www.rt.com/business/556674-poland-firewood-heat-homes/
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 9:26:46 PM
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Oh Gawrd, what a smozzle of comment.
Agenda 21, Rothchilds etc etc and now Davos graduates.
See a sequence there. I am sure the Romans had a similar society that
was undercover and then out in the open.
Instead of James Bond they had You too Brutus ?

No the Ukraine war will not spawn a climate catastrophe !
For years and years so called experts with their laptops have been
warning us of an imminent climate disaster.
The war will have no effect at all.
IT IS THE SUN STUPID to paraphase Bill Clinton in his comment on
it is the economy stupid !

BTW, can someone who is so verbose explain to me why Russia is
pounding the towns and cities to rubble when they want to take over
the country and then will have to send themselves broke rebuilding it all ?
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 10:05:47 PM
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They never wanted to take over the country, trying to take Kiev was a gamble, if it had've paid off all this fighting would've been avoided, it didn't work (Belarussian rebels messed with rail infrastructure) but what it did do was keep Ukrainian troops in place in Kiev and allow them to quickly build a land bridge to Crimea and create a buffer to make it that much more difficult to be taken back which Ukrainians planned to do, as well as get a fairly good foothold in the eastern regions. Only Severodonetsk now remains in the Donbass.

The country is twice as big as Iraq with twice as many troops, trained by the US, armed and armed by the West, and they are trying their best not to harm civilians and infrastructure, whilst for the last 8 years Ukraine has been targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure in the Donbass.

Port of Mariupol is already reopened.

Nobody really knows what Russian troops will focus on after they finish taking the Donbass, (Ukraine has built multiple lines of defense bordering Donbass but they broke through at Popasna) maybe move further west and take Sloviank and Kramatorsk. If they take Odessa the country becomes landlocked. If they move west of the Dnipro river Poland may invade and take Lviv and western parts of the country. Ukraine lost this war a long time ago. The West wanted to weaken Russia but has done more harm to itself.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 9 June 2022 5:50:49 AM
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