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Will the Ukraine stalemate spawn climate catastrophe? : Comments

By Andris Heks, published 7/6/2022

It is not every day that you hear two of the world's shrewdest senior voices in international affairs, George Soros and Henry Kissinger agree.

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Will the Ukraine/ Russian war spawn climate catastrophe!? It already has mate! And already baked in due to energy supply issues/oil shock outcomes! And coming hard on the heels of the Covid pandemic. Creating all the required ingredients for another Great Depression!

And until and unless we isolate our economy from the rest of the world and their supply side energy shortages! Sure to be our enduring fate for decades to come as useless parties bicker over what preoccupies them, i.e., power and how to get it and then retain it with all the blame shifting and business as usual, prevarication! As they sit on their hands and make endless excuses for their failure to act on the stuff that matters!

Least they offend their real political masters? Well heeled foreign investors/coal companies!?

If there's any other real reason it's one that escapes me!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 7 June 2022 12:40:42 PM
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These Davos graduates, are one of the causes of world difficulties.
Where is James Bond when we need him ?
The energy crisis has nothing to do with them, it is completely the
result of activism of the Human Caused Global Warming delusion.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 1:51:23 PM
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Hey Bazz,
"The energy crisis has nothing to do with them, it is completely the
result of activism of the Human Caused Global Warming delusion."

Okay, lets follow your line of inquiry;
Where did this idea start?

I'd probably start here, with the Club of Romes first report in 1972, 'The Limits of Growth'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_of_Rome#The_Limits_to_Growth

"In searching for a common enemy against whom we can unite, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fit the bill. In their totality and their interactions these phenomena do constitute a common threat which must be confronted by everyone together. But in designating these dangers as the enemy, we fall into the trap, which we have already warned readers about, namely mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention in natural processes, and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy then is humanity itself."

Scroll down a little further and one name in particular stands out.
Princess Beatrix of the Netherlands.
What's interesting about that..
Well, her Dad Prince Bernhard founded the Bilderberg group.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Bernhard_of_Lippe-Biesterfeld
In 1954, he was a co-founder of the international Bilderberg Group, which has met annually since then to discuss corporate globalisation and other issues concerning Europe and North America.

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Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 5:36:18 PM
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http://fabiansociety.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/hello-world/

The truth about the Fabian Society
Refuting the conspiracy deniers: why the Fabian Conspiracy is a fact

"The involvement of leading figures from the financial world shows that Bilderberg was indeed the creation of financial interests. Only that these interests were not “capitalist” but Socialist. David Astor, who became a member, was a leader of the pro-Socialist Milner Group. Other leading financiers who attended Bilderberg meetings from the first conference (1954) were long-standing Fabian Socialists David and Nelson Rockefeller; Joseph E. Johnson, chairman of the Rockefellers’ Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and president of the Rockefeller-controlled Carnegie Endowment for International Peace; and Dean Rusk, CFR director, director of the Rockefeller Foundation, Bilderberg co-chairman and (from 1961) Democrat Secretary of State. The only capitalist of sorts was the Group’s chairman, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands. However, he was controlled by Retinger who, as a former member of the intelligence services, held information about Bernhard’s private life (de Villemarest, p. 15) and had clearly chosen him to cover the Socialist trail."

The whole things a good read.

What do we know about the Bilderberg Groups ideology?
Maybe we should take a look at 'Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars'

Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
http://novelww.com/truyen/267983683/chap/811248-1063207998/

"In 1954 this was the issue of primary concern. Although the so-called 'moral issues' were raised, in view of the law of natural selection it was agreed that a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent.

Consequently, in the interest of future world order, peace, and tranquility, it was decided to privately wage a quiet war against the American public with an ultimate objective of permanently shifting the natural and social energy (wealthy) of the undisciplined and irresponsible many into the hands of the self-disciplined, responsible and worthy few."

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Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 5:48:05 PM
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"In order to implement this objective, it was necessary to create, secure, and apply new weapons which, as it turned out, were a class of weapons so subtle and sophisticated in their principle of operation and public appearance as to earn for themselves the name of "silent weapons".
In conclusion, the objective of economic research, as conducted by the magnates of capital (banking) and the industries of commodities (goods) and services, is the establishment of an economy which is totally predictable and manipulatable.

In order to achieve a totally predictable economy, the low-class elements of the society must be brought under total control, i.e., must be housebroken, trained, and assigned a yoke and long-term social duties from a very early age, before they have an opportunity to question the propriety of the matter. In order to achieve such enormity, the lower-class family unit must be disintegrated by a process of increasing preoccupation of the parents and the establishment of government-operated day-care centers for the occupationally orphaned children.

The quality of education given to the lower class must be of the poorest sort, so that the moat of ignorance isolating the interior class from the superior class is and remains incomprehensible to the inferior class. With such an initial handicap, even bright lower class individuals have little if any hope of extricating themselves from their assigned lot in life. This form of slavery is essential to maintaining some measure of social order, peace, and tranquility for the ruling upper class."

The problem is that your so frighted of the words 'conspiracy theory' and the stigma of it, that your mind is closed to investigating it and finding out that there may in fact be some truth to it all.

In truth, these 'Davos graduates', and 'activists of the Human Caused Global Warming delusion' well they're probably all one in the same.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 6:01:13 PM
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Hey Alan B.
"Least they offend their real political masters? Well heeled foreign investors/coal companies!?"

I think you can leave the coal companies out of this one.
Who are their 'real political masters'?
Who are their 'well heeled foreign investors'?

And as for Ukraine, I got plenty to say there,
- But I promised to keep my mouth shut on the topic for 2 weeks -
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 6:08:48 PM
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