Will the Ukraine/ Russian war spawn climate catastrophe!? It already has mate! And already baked in due to energy supply issues/oil shock outcomes! And coming hard on the heels of the Covid pandemic. Creating all the required ingredients for another Great Depression!

And until and unless we isolate our economy from the rest of the world and their supply side energy shortages! Sure to be our enduring fate for decades to come as useless parties bicker over what preoccupies them, i.e., power and how to get it and then retain it with all the blame shifting and business as usual, prevarication! As they sit on their hands and make endless excuses for their failure to act on the stuff that matters!

Least they offend their real political masters? Well heeled foreign investors/coal companies!?

If there's any other real reason it's one that escapes me!
Alan B.

These Davos graduates, are one of the causes of world difficulties.
Where is James Bond when we need him ?
The energy crisis has nothing to do with them, it is completely the
result of activism of the Human Caused Global Warming delusion.

Hey Bazz,
"The energy crisis has nothing to do with them, it is completely the
result of activism of the Human Caused Global Warming delusion."

Okay, lets follow your line of inquiry;
Where did this idea start?

I'd probably start here, with the Club of Romes first report in 1972, 'The Limits of Growth'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_of_Rome#The_Limits_to_Growth

"In searching for a common enemy against whom we can unite, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fit the bill. In their totality and their interactions these phenomena do constitute a common threat which must be confronted by everyone together. But in designating these dangers as the enemy, we fall into the trap, which we have already warned readers about, namely mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention in natural processes, and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy then is humanity itself."

Scroll down a little further and one name in particular stands out.
Princess Beatrix of the Netherlands.
What's interesting about that..
Well, her Dad Prince Bernhard founded the Bilderberg group.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Bernhard_of_Lippe-Biesterfeld
In 1954, he was a co-founder of the international Bilderberg Group, which has met annually since then to discuss corporate globalisation and other issues concerning Europe and North America.

[Cont.]

http://fabiansociety.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/hello-world/

The truth about the Fabian Society
Refuting the conspiracy deniers: why the Fabian Conspiracy is a fact

"The involvement of leading figures from the financial world shows that Bilderberg was indeed the creation of financial interests. Only that these interests were not “capitalist” but Socialist. David Astor, who became a member, was a leader of the pro-Socialist Milner Group. Other leading financiers who attended Bilderberg meetings from the first conference (1954) were long-standing Fabian Socialists David and Nelson Rockefeller; Joseph E. Johnson, chairman of the Rockefellers’ Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and president of the Rockefeller-controlled Carnegie Endowment for International Peace; and Dean Rusk, CFR director, director of the Rockefeller Foundation, Bilderberg co-chairman and (from 1961) Democrat Secretary of State. The only capitalist of sorts was the Group’s chairman, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands. However, he was controlled by Retinger who, as a former member of the intelligence services, held information about Bernhard’s private life (de Villemarest, p. 15) and had clearly chosen him to cover the Socialist trail."

The whole things a good read.

What do we know about the Bilderberg Groups ideology?
Maybe we should take a look at 'Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars'

Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
http://novelww.com/truyen/267983683/chap/811248-1063207998/

"In 1954 this was the issue of primary concern. Although the so-called 'moral issues' were raised, in view of the law of natural selection it was agreed that a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent.

Consequently, in the interest of future world order, peace, and tranquility, it was decided to privately wage a quiet war against the American public with an ultimate objective of permanently shifting the natural and social energy (wealthy) of the undisciplined and irresponsible many into the hands of the self-disciplined, responsible and worthy few."

[Cont.]

"In order to implement this objective, it was necessary to create, secure, and apply new weapons which, as it turned out, were a class of weapons so subtle and sophisticated in their principle of operation and public appearance as to earn for themselves the name of "silent weapons".
In conclusion, the objective of economic research, as conducted by the magnates of capital (banking) and the industries of commodities (goods) and services, is the establishment of an economy which is totally predictable and manipulatable.

In order to achieve a totally predictable economy, the low-class elements of the society must be brought under total control, i.e., must be housebroken, trained, and assigned a yoke and long-term social duties from a very early age, before they have an opportunity to question the propriety of the matter. In order to achieve such enormity, the lower-class family unit must be disintegrated by a process of increasing preoccupation of the parents and the establishment of government-operated day-care centers for the occupationally orphaned children.

The quality of education given to the lower class must be of the poorest sort, so that the moat of ignorance isolating the interior class from the superior class is and remains incomprehensible to the inferior class. With such an initial handicap, even bright lower class individuals have little if any hope of extricating themselves from their assigned lot in life. This form of slavery is essential to maintaining some measure of social order, peace, and tranquility for the ruling upper class."

The problem is that your so frighted of the words 'conspiracy theory' and the stigma of it, that your mind is closed to investigating it and finding out that there may in fact be some truth to it all.

In truth, these 'Davos graduates', and 'activists of the Human Caused Global Warming delusion' well they're probably all one in the same.

Hey Alan B.
"Least they offend their real political masters? Well heeled foreign investors/coal companies!?"

I think you can leave the coal companies out of this one.
Who are their 'real political masters'?
Who are their 'well heeled foreign investors'?

And as for Ukraine, I got plenty to say there,
- But I promised to keep my mouth shut on the topic for 2 weeks -

A conspiracy theory implies a group making plans on the qt and doing
it undercover.
The Davos assembly is not secret and publicises its aims.
Their members are well known political leaders such as the New Zealand PM.
Their policy is known as the Big Reset !
One of their mottos, "You will own nothing and be happy"!
There is more info but I do not have it to hand.

AC

The positions of power are allocated to cowards: Otherwise known as “Yes” men. And we should use the term “man” loosely here.

Robbie Burns nails it:

*…Is there for honest poverty that hangs his head and o’r that; the coward slave we turn aside, we d’o be pure for all that…But the honest “man” tho a’r so pure, is king of men for o’r that…*
(from memory).

Dan

Hey Bazz,
If we went back 10 or 15 years, Agenda 21 and Bilderberg were still largely unknown.
Anyone who mentioned them was labelled a tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy nut.
It wasn't until 2015 that the UN announced the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development,
- with the included Sustainable Development Goals (SDG), that made the relatively previously unknown Agenda 21 obsolete.

If you watch this video from 2013, we can go back and see just how little was known about it back then.
Australian Politician - Ann Bressington Exposes Agenda 21 and Club of Rome
http://youtu.be/oMSyIm66U2g

Now if you go to this next video, (you only need to watch a minute or so)
- skip forward to 5 minutes and 30 seconds, you'll start to understand what happened;
Essentially what happened was they went from something that was a plan to 'transform human society'
which had previously gone 'under the radar' and 'operated within the shadows'
- to something that moved into 'sales-pitch mode'.
"You can't hide it, so you sell it".
http://banned.video/watch?id=6261c713edbd25224cab3548

Now if you go to the UN website and look up Agenda 21.
- It's there on the website, as though it was there all along.
http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/outcomedocuments/agenda21
But that's not how it was.

If you looked through google search engine results and YouTube,
the links to info on websites and YouTube videos trying to expose it when little was known
Well all those google search engine results and YouTube videos are now gone.
- Like they never existed in the first place during those years around say 2005 to 2015.
They've made it look like it was all just known public policy.
- Rewritten history for public consumption of the next generation -
Anyone who went and looked would think it was never hidden from the publics view in the first place.

Hey Diver dan,
"Otherwise known as 'Yes' men. And we should use the term 'man' loosely here."

I could think of another term, but it's not very dignified.
It's what they're calling Mel Brooks character as he shuffles over to them with his bucket.
http://youtu.be/JGfXiIXTpE0

- As far as Ukraine and climate change goes, Germany is reactivating coal plants, and Poles have been told to forage for wood.

"As Germany closes its last nuclear reactors, it is also reactivating old coal power plants to ensure electricity supply security amid Russian threats to turn off the gas tap.
Germany’s attempt to simultaneously phase out nuclear and coal power just got significantly more complicated. Once envisaged as a transition fuel on the way to renewables, fossil gas is being reconsidered in Germany after Russia invaded Ukraine."
http://www.euractiv.com/section/energy/news/germany-reactivates-coal-power-plants-amid-russian-gas-supply-threats/

"Authorities in Warsaw have allowed citizens to forage for firewood in forests to keep their homes heated amid spiralling energy costs. Poland is in the midst of a coal shortage after banning Russian imports... Branches should be taken to the local forester, who will issue an invoice. Collectors will have to pay between seven and 30 zlotys ($7.02) for approximately 0.25 cubic meters of firewood."
http://www.rt.com/business/556674-poland-firewood-heat-homes/

Oh Gawrd, what a smozzle of comment.
Agenda 21, Rothchilds etc etc and now Davos graduates.
See a sequence there. I am sure the Romans had a similar society that
was undercover and then out in the open.
Instead of James Bond they had You too Brutus ?

No the Ukraine war will not spawn a climate catastrophe !
For years and years so called experts with their laptops have been
warning us of an imminent climate disaster.
The war will have no effect at all.
IT IS THE SUN STUPID to paraphase Bill Clinton in his comment on
it is the economy stupid !

BTW, can someone who is so verbose explain to me why Russia is
pounding the towns and cities to rubble when they want to take over
the country and then will have to send themselves broke rebuilding it all ?

They never wanted to take over the country, trying to take Kiev was a gamble, if it had've paid off all this fighting would've been avoided, it didn't work (Belarussian rebels messed with rail infrastructure) but what it did do was keep Ukrainian troops in place in Kiev and allow them to quickly build a land bridge to Crimea and create a buffer to make it that much more difficult to be taken back which Ukrainians planned to do, as well as get a fairly good foothold in the eastern regions. Only Severodonetsk now remains in the Donbass.

The country is twice as big as Iraq with twice as many troops, trained by the US, armed and armed by the West, and they are trying their best not to harm civilians and infrastructure, whilst for the last 8 years Ukraine has been targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure in the Donbass.

Port of Mariupol is already reopened.

Nobody really knows what Russian troops will focus on after they finish taking the Donbass, (Ukraine has built multiple lines of defense bordering Donbass but they broke through at Popasna) maybe move further west and take Sloviank and Kramatorsk. If they take Odessa the country becomes landlocked. If they move west of the Dnipro river Poland may invade and take Lviv and western parts of the country. Ukraine lost this war a long time ago. The West wanted to weaken Russia but has done more harm to itself.

The aim was to demilitarise and denazify Ukraine, among other things they won't be joining NATO anytime soon and will have to make a negotiated settlement and remain a neutral country.

As well as that western countries economies are severely strained, runaway inflation (their own fault for printing too much money during Covid), food shortages and high energy prices, talks of rolling blackouts in UK, US and here.

Even KFC is now substituting cabbage for lettuce.

And if China wishes to take Taiwan, there's not much the US can do, they'd be overstretched.
Russias new Zircon hypersonic missle can reach speeds of Mach 9 and change trajectory mid-flight with a range of 1000klms. (That's Sunshine Coast to Sydney)
Most Taiwanise want to remain neutral, not become independent as doing doing so will cut them off from mainland China.
The west may try and burn down the whole world not to allow China to rise and exceed them economically, but it may now also have to accept a multipolar world.

Thank you everyone for your thoughtful comments and your fascinating series Armchair Critic.

Here are a couple of responses I received from friends which you might want to comment on:

1: Russia’s Shrinking War

Thanks for your Article and your desire for peace is so strong. In the New York Times over the last week there has been a different reporting of Russia’s War against Ukraine. Two different reports have indicated Russia is losing ground in the major cities there and today they are saying the goals of Russia’s invasion keep getting smaller. Its depleted military is still failing to make major advances, and time is on Ukraine’s side. It is interesting that most reports and historians, journalists here as well are saying the War could go on till Christmas. I have little time for Kissinger and his type so I’m more optimistic that if more young Russian soldiers are growing weary or going home in body bags then this will put a huge amount of pressure for Putin to take on. We need a World Body (a new Security Council arrangement) that will operate more effectively. It has always failed because of the ’veto’ mistake. Doc Evatt knew that in 1948. My feeling is that Putin will cave in – either by having a stroke – a Russian uprising – or maybe Divine intervention. It happens when one stupid idiot make a war without reason. As you have gathered I’m the eternal optimist. As a pacifist it is hard for me to admit this but when the world has a tyrant of the magnitude I believe the is a case (for the common good) to bump him off if he can’t be caged or imprisoned. A World Government has to have the power to contol monsters like this, just like we have to shoot the wild dog if he gets to the chickens. I like your writing Andris – you make us all sit up and think!

MY SECOND FRIEND'S COMMENT:

I enjoyed your article. It is a good, dispassionate examination of the two main Western approaches to the problem that Putin has given us all to solve - how to avoid escalation without acceding to Putin’s demands.

It is, of course, early days yet, and Putin may be forced to cease his efforts to subdue Ukraine because of lack of support in Russia and lack of performance by his army and air-power. However I think it will be quite some time before these factors really determine the outcome of the war.

You also mention Chamberlain and the lessons most Western leaders have drawn from their studies and analyses of appeasement. These lessons will remain in the forefront of most Western leaders’ minds for quite a long time, encouraging them to stay on the war path. And also there are the historical forces which motivate Ukraine to make huge sacrifices and refuse to make a deal with Putin. Russia is also under the influence of its many wars with Ukraine and other people who have lived there during the past several centuries. They share a deep historical enmity.

This is quite a special type of war in which the opposing forces will be willing to persist with the use of force. Ukraine will continue to look to the West for key military assistance, and they have several levers to use to keep the West willing to supply necessary support. Putin will be driven by dread of the consequences of losing the war. It is a very nasty prospect for us all, and not many people are aware of the consequences of a protracted war for our planet

So, bravo to you Andris for your efforts in throwing light on this major problem that we all need to share in solving!

Hey Andris,
I'm on the side of 'I don't support sanctions because I think it's collective punishment of entire nations and I don't support overthrows or 'liberal intervention'.
- This means I support Russia, by default, but I think its bad that all these people are dying and suffering because of it.

- And I blame the West for all of it for overthrowing the country in 2014.

What you need to understand is that while both sides are fighting for territory, Ukraine is fighting for territory at any cost, whilst Russia is fighting to destroy the Ukrainian military.
Ukraine taking back 20% of Severodontesk is only digging them deeper into that cauldron.

Another thing you should look at is the 'Follow the money' issue.
Whilst this war rages on, all those Bilderbergers and elites as well as the Military Industrial Complex AND US politicians and bankers (including IMF and US government) are making a heap of money.

[Cont.]
The average Joe Blow small businessmen (and women) are going bust.
- While the larger multinational companies (Bilderbergers) can absorb the cost, consolidate and take over more business.
- And ALL citizens the world over are paying for ALL OF IT.

Let me get some stats...
For starters fuel prices in the US yesterday hit a record in all 50 states.
Change in market value by sector since 24th Feb 2022,
Coal +42%
Offshore Drilling Services +42%
Alternative Fuels +38%
Fertilizers +26%
Crude Oil Production +21%
Waste and Disposal +18%
Arms Manufacturers +15%
Electrical Components +15%
Renewable Energy +15%
Oil Equipment and Services +12%
Infrastructure REITs +12%
Timber REITs +12%
Oil Refining and Marketing +12%
Financial Data Providers +10%
Agricultural Commodity Traders +10%
Healthcare Management +9%
Diversified Financial Services +9%
Hotel and Lodge REITs +9%
Integrated Oil and Gas +9%
Pipelines +8%

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/goldman-sachs-profits-ukraine-war-loophole-sanctions-rcna19584

How much do you think defense contractors are making?
Pentagon Prime Contracts Issued to the Top 5 Weapons Contractors
(Separate from the daily amounts shown on the US DoD website, actual amounts are much higher)
FY2019 and FY2020 respectively
Lockheed Martin 47.1bln / 75.2 bln
Raytheon 26.3bln / 27.8bln
General Dynamics 16.5bln / 21.8bln
Boeing 15.6bln / 21.7bln
Northrop Grumman 14.2bln / 20.3 bln

How much do you think US politicians are making?
Theres is a list, but too much for me to go into here
http://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/nancy-pelosi-stock-trades-meme-investing-litquidity-paul-pelosi-alphabet-2021-9

Others are making a lot of money off this war, while we're all paying for it.

Hi Armchair Critic,

I couldn't agree with you more that it is the military-industrial complex who need and promote wars and make a mint out of them.

Now at last, Putin let the cat out of the bag.
Having lied that he wasn't amassing his troops at the Ukrainian border
for starting a war, then calling it 'a special' operation to de-nazify and demilitarise without land grabbing, now finally Putin admits that he is really after Ukraine's whole territory to conquer and make it part of a resurrected Russian empire.
Peter the Great is his idle.

After Peter annexed the area of today's Saint Petersburg, named after him, from Sweden - Putin tries to console himself, that foreign nations refused to recognise it as part of Russia.
So all he is doing now, like Peter, is simply restoring Russia to its ancient empirical greatness.
It's a holy war, blessed by no other than the head of the Russian Ortodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, an ex KGB operative billionaire.
Even though the EU wanted to put sanctions on Kirill recently, Hungary's PM Orbán sabotaged the proposal.
So Putin can still hope for annointment as St Vladimir by Kirill.

Hi Andris,
I had this whole comment written up last night and just before I was ready to post it I hit the wrong button and accidentally closed the tab. Damn, but it happens, I'll try to go through again what I'd written.

Firstly though in response to your points, look at Israel and Palestine, I don't think it makes any sense at all, to try to occupy regions where you're not wanted.
With this in mind, as far as Ukraine is concerned, if you drew a line from Kharkiv to Odessa (appoximate line of Russian speaking Ukrainians) it doesn't make much sense for Russia to take back territory west of this.

Now I'll try to go over what I'd written last night, but I doubt it will be as good as the other one I already wrote.

We in the west think we have democracy and pride ourselves in it, but we are actually the authoritarians AND the invaders.

First I want to share this video with you.
http://youtu.be/2IS7qOUJy1g
You can either watch the whole thing, or skip to about 30mins in where Eva Bartlett is interviewed.
What you will find out is 'Western State Sponsored Media Censorship'.
She also mentioned Patrick Lancaster, you can find a hit-piece here.
http://www.vice.com/en/article/wxneb4/ukraine-patrick-lancaster-journalist

She also talks about the fact that when she worked for RT they NEVER told her what to write or censored her views, yet she says the West would NEVER allow this themselves.

Look at what we do to control the narrative
The US government is recruiting influencers to get young people vaccinated
http://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/53726/1/the-us-government-is-recruiting-influencers-to-get-young-people-vaccinated

So it seems to me that what they call 'Russian disinformation and propaganda' is basically ANYTHING that is journalism that doesn't parrot a western narrative.

To drive this point home a little further we should look at Australian sanctions against Russia.

Australian Government sanctions
http://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2022L00708

Let's look a little further
Victory Museum Named
http://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/australia-imposes-ban-on-russian-journalists-propagandist-officials-and-legal-entities-articleshow.html

We sanctioned a museum, doesn't that make you curious?
Why did we do that? Maybe we should look at what it is.

[Cont.]
Victory Museum
http://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/07/ordinary-nazism

It doesn't seem that bad to me, it's just something that one might assume they don't want people in the West to know.

Let's take another look at what the West does.
Watch the first 5 minutes of this video and you'll see how people in the West who provide insight other than the official narrative are treated.

Ukraine Has Lost, Must Negotiate With Russia - US General
http://youtu.be/LEhrmwfU03U

You see, we attack, de-platform and defund people that don't tow the line on the official narrative, while Russia allows journalistic freedom on it's platforms.

Who then respects journalistic freedom? Not us.

Now lets go and have a look where this war in Ukraine started, and who is really to blame.

Nov 2013 (Pre-Maidan!): Ukraine Deputy has proof of USA staging civil war in Ukraine
http://youtu.be/y9hOl8TuBUM
(Turn on closed captions or read the video description for the transcript)

Now look at this mentioned in the above video.
TechCamp Kyiv 2012
http://youtu.be/bpIoBUDuL3U
(Again, read the video description)

And lets not forget this
F--- the EU!" (original File) - Victoria Nuland phoning with Geoffrey Pyatt
http://youtu.be/KIvRljAaNgg

Ukraine protests after Yanukovych EU deal rejection
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25162563

The West overthrew the country back in 2014,
All this is the Wests fault.

Do you see now that we are the authoritarians that don't respect journalistic freedom, and we are also the invaders that meddle in the affairs of other countries, oppose or depose them when they don't do what we like, and support and install people who will?

[Cont.]

Let me push the issue a little further.
Watch this video, and see how we in the West organise dissidents to help create the conditions to conduct these overthrows 'in the name of democracy'.

Oslo Freedom Forum: US Proxies Train and Plan for the Next "Ukraine
http://youtu.be/y6S_fHt5ndo

Now look at all the nations the west has been screwing with.
http://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

Assange says US meddled in 81 elections not including coups
http://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/854419203201404930

So do we really respect democracy? No
Do we really respect journalistic freedom and integrity? No
And who are really the invaders that seek to impose our will on others?
- We are.

And who benefits?
Not the people of the world, these elites, Royals, Bankers, Bilderbergers i.e the multinational business elite.

And who pays for all of it?
We the citizens of the world do.

Democracy is just a front company for western monetary policy.
It's the best system for productivity, and to steal all our productive wealth, and privatise it into the hands of others.
That's why they like it, nothing about human rights at all.

If they cared about human rights they wouldn't be sending more weapons to conscripted Ukrainians to fight and die in a war they can't win.

We're not sovereign nations.
We attack the sovereign nations.
We're mere colonies of globalism.

It's not as good as the one I wrote last night, but hopefully it still has the same effect.
I'm not sure how I got it all into a single response last night.
Thanks for your time, that's about all I've got.
I hope you can see the bigger picture.
- It's there for anyone who looks hard enough.

Hi Armchair Critic,

I agree with much of what you say, but there is something you say, which I urge you to fact check because it could not be further from the truth.

You say: 'Russia allows journalistic freedom on it's platforms.'

You have got to be kidding.

The government censors ruthlessly the entire Russian media.

After people started to protest after the invasion, a 15 year jail sentence was introduced in Russia against any protest.
Even a sign 'Let's have peace' is seen as a crime.

There is conclusive evidence that Putin had arranged the assasination of his ex Russian spy colleague in London; that he attepted to assasinate another two in London and that he arranged to have poisoned the current leader of Russian opposition and having failed, he keeps locking him up and have his followers muzzled by outlawing his party as a terrorist organisation. ETC!

It is one thing to recognise most serious flaws in Western democracies, or even to argue that their democracy is in fact qestionable,
but it is another, to claim that there is freedom of expression on Russsian media platforms.

In fact the Russian regime, including its exclusively propaganda-lies producing media outlets is getting more criminally repressive by the day.

All the best.

Hi Andris,

Thanks for your response.
I accept that your points are fair and reasonable issues for discussion, and intend to respond.
I've just spent half an hour or so writing up a 700 word response,
- but I've realised I can only add one more 350 word comment in a 24hr period.
(maximum of 4 x 350 word comments per day)

- So as much as I'd really like to share all I've written right now;
I'm going to have to wait until tomorrow to share it all with you.
Also what I've written, I'd rather keep all in one piece than give some now and some tomorrow.
- I wish I could share it all now, there's heaps of info to look over.

Hi Andris,
Yes ok, they are fair points for discussion.

First let's take a look at RT.
http://www.rt.com/

There's nothing there that would be considered false or misleading.
- And, we have to consider that which people who've worked for them have themselves said.
Eva Bartlett says she was never once told what to write, and never once was asked to change anything she wrote.
I also know of Lee Stranahan, I got a lot of my early info from him, and I don't recall anything that wasn't based on fact.
It was he, that many years back shared the Ukrainian Parliament videos and spoke about Civil Society 2.0 shown in the US Embassy Kiev video. (Apparently they first used this at Occupy Wall St protests, I think it was some kind of app, or tools for dissidents to use)
http://sputniknews.com/author_lee_stranahan/

Now onto your bigger argument
"After people started to protest after the invasion, a 15 year jail sentence was introduced in Russia against any protest.
Even a sign 'Let's have peace' is seen as a crime."

What you need to understand is the way the National Endowment for Democracy uses and has largely perfected empowering protesters to stir up trouble for the purposes of undermining an existing government and conducting overthrows.
Those sentences may seem like really harsh punishment for free speech, or a 'right to protest' but I think that what Russia are actually doing is preventing deliberate co-ordinated efforts to undermine the government in this particular war with Ukraine.
- And yes, I've heard that even calling it a war gets you in serious trouble.

I'll accept your very valid point on that one, but I hope that you can see the bigger picture.
With the US playbook, they would most definitely use this to stir things up and have Putin removed if they could, will you at least accept that?
But Putin enjoys an approval rating that far exceeds any of our 'democratic' nations.

As for the next parts you added, I don't think Putin poisoned the people in the UK in regards to the Novichok, (though I don't know I wasn't there) I think if KGB/FSB wanted someone dead, they'd be dead.

I'm not really familiar with the Alexei Navalny topic so I can't comment on it, but I can say I've never really believed Russia shot MH17 down, and the fact that since then all the stuff that's come out about Ukrainian Nazi's etc gives more reason to doubt it, it's just as likely it was a false flag committed by Ukrainian nationalists.
Ukrainian's call Russian's 'Orks' and there are certain oligarch's such as Kolomoisky connected to Hunter Biden and Zelensky that openly hate Putin.
- Also the things you're accusing Russia of doing to members of his opposition, Zelensky did the exact same thing, killed / locked any opposition up.
Zelensky OUTLAWS Independent Media & Opposition Parties
http://youtu.be/HWLweR_eIjI

Zelenskiy's Oligarch Connection
http://youtu.be/MXgli7TpINw
Zelensky, Hunter Biden — and Their Sugar Daddy, Kolomoisky
http://youtu.be/fUPKZkqXfZI

Zelenskyy Wanted Nuclear Weapons, India Old Friend & Strategic Partner | Sergey Lavrov EXCLUSIVE
http://youtu.be/ecpRrep0twE
I do know that Lavrov in this video above disputes many of the things you mentioned

I used to know a bit more in regards to Bill Browder and the Magninsky act, but I can't remember all the details right now.

And as far as Novichok is concerned and Russian bioweapons;
Things happened after the fall of the USSR
Victoria Nuland has now admitted there were Biolabs in Ukraine,
China and Russia have both spoke out early in the war about the biolabs
http://english.news.cn/20220325/d3242927136e411490b2cea4a39a189b/c.html
http://tass.com/search?searchStr=biolabs&sort=date
- If you google and look back the US denied it as a conspiracy, plenty of websites still do but since then Victoria Nuland has admitted it.
http://youtu.be/0PdhaKAAi40

We've since found out that there were in fact 46 biolabs.
You have to ask yourself why the US was so desperate that they no be found?
- It's because they were actively involved in bio-weapons, not studying the common cold.
http://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/us-asked-explain-after-pentagon-admits-operating-46-biolabs-ukraine-after-months

They're connected to Hunter Biden, Rosemont Seneca and Kolomoisky.
I can even give you the inside story on it.
http://twitter.com/RealGeorgeWebb1/status/1535474744102948864

National Endowment for Democracy and USAID are a kind of extension of / or replacement for activities that used to be conducted by the CIA.

If you really want a better world, then you will have to come up with a better system than the one we have.
As long as the United States acts the way it does, there will ALWAYS be conflicts.

Hi Armchair Critic,

I am puzzled as to why you do not see Putin's regime for the brutal dictatorship that it is, steeped in the worst of Stalinism.

The evidence for this is overwhelming.

It is quite possible to see Zelenskyy's and the Wests' faults and their war mongering tendencies, yet at the same time not trying to whitewash Putin either.

For the 1st 18 years of my life I lived in Hungarian communism, first in the Stalinist and then in its Khrushchev versions.

Putin has been increasingly playing from Stalin's playbook.

George Soros wrote a commentary, The Fight of Our Lives, Project Syndicate, May 24. There are thirty-one comments sent as of today. One comment says, "George Soros's comments are totally on the money."

https://www.project-syndicate.org/onpoint/davos-address-open-society-against-russia-china-by george-soros-2022-05.

Armchair Critic,

My parents ran from the Soviet Regime. They lost their
country, family, and everything that mattered to them
in life. I was born in Australia.

I can understand your criticism of the West. However I
like Andris, cannot understand your defending Putin.

"The USSR was a blood-stained regime
In which millions were murdered as a daily routine
Might is Right was their slogan of choice
Dissenting cries were not given a voice

History has written of the many disposed
The frozen infernos have now been exposed
Putin and Stalin are two of a kind
Yet some in the West to this are still blind

Putin like Stalin will take what he wants
He will kill and destroy those who fight in response
The world can't allow this rampage of terror
Not protecting Ukraine would be a huge error

First the Ukraine, Then Romania
Followed by Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania
Do we want the USSR re-instated
Ruling Eastern Europe unabated?

The world must unite and be fully aware
That this is a battle that we all need to share
Putin must be stopped in his tracks
Otherwise no sovereign nation can truly relax."

Armchair Critic,

"The blood on Putin's hands will not wash away
The red on Soviet flags in history will stay
The people must fight the tyranny caused
By a man of unsound mind who wants what once was!"

Hey Andris,
I can't say that I've ever lived in a communist country.
I was born here and lived here all my life, as did many generations of my family way back to somewhere before 1815, that's as far back as I could go until records became obscure.
Apparently about 12 or so generations back my distant paternal ancestor was sent here as a convict for stealing a sheep, though I can't find a record of how and when he got here.

The world's quickly becoming a very unstable place.
If it were up to me, (but it's not) I'd have our country gain nuclear defense capabilities and then become neutral and a voice of reason from all the external actors in the world.

Free from the hold of the UK, and US and other global treaties, neutral and self sufficient. Australia for Australians.

I haven't been to Russia, but what makes you truly think the Russian Federation of today is the same as the USSR of the past?

I spent a number of years caught up with conspiracy type stuff so maybe I have that kind of bias, but at the same time, much of that stuff came to pass.

After all this talk of Russian propaganda and disinformation, I spent time yesterday watching a university lecture fro KGB propaganda expert Yuri Bezmenov.
I mean why not get the info straight out of the horses mouth?
I think the video was made prior to the fall of the USSR.

First I watched this video;
http://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA
Then I found this Uni lecture video.
http://youtu.be/Y9TviIuXPSE

Recently I also read this.
The truth about the Fabian Society
http://fabiansociety.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/hello-world/
It talks about all the Globalists and Bilderberger's being socialist.

[Cont.]
Many other things I've looked at over the years kind of added to my inquiry, can't remember all of them, and it would be foolish to try and do so here.

Do you want to know what conclusion I'm having a really hard time with after watching that video?

>>James Warburg gained some notice in a February 17, 1950, appearance before the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations in which he said, "We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest."<<

The conclusion I'm having a hard time with right now, is that the globalists are using these same tactics of subversion, to get their global government.
They are now doing what Marxism / Leninism and the USSR started.

I never looked too much into Marxism / Leninism, only a little bit;
(Though I have read the 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto)
- Marxism / Leninism will be my next step.

- All of this 'conspiracy' stuff aside, it still doesn't change that which I have already laid out to you and have made clear to many of the forums regular members many times.

Ultimately;
- I don't support overthrowing other peoples countries as the West routinely does,
- And also, I don't support using money and trade as weapons.
I think sanctions are collective punishment against an entire nation citizens.

I know there's been some horrible leaders that have done horrible things to their people in the past, and the world is undoubtedly a better place with many of them gone.

But I still can't help it that I feel this way.

Hey Michi,
It's getting a little late for me to concentrate, I don't think much of Soros,
- But I've bookmarked your link and I'll try to read through it sometime tomorrow.

Hey Foxy,
- Fancy seeing you here. [smiley face]
Calm down, it's not the end of the world just yet.
Putin doesn't have a big enough army to invade Western Europe with Red Terror.
The West has done more damage to itself (and Europe) with sanctions.
- Same goes for the green agendas and now China owns all the worlds lithium.

We Have To Keep Buying Russian Oil To Stop Putin!?! Says European Leader
http://youtu.be/nCdP8l94-ew

Armchair Critic:

These are more easily accessible links to George Soros at Davos 2022:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqSN3iEsq9A and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXyu8u_hsIA

As to what is at stake in trying to save democracy in the face of its enemies, please have a look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=809GveYxo2I

And this article of mine please:

https://startsat60.com/media/opinion/one-sentence-about-tyranny

Hey Andris,
Just for reference, OLO doesn't recognise secure links,
- You have to take out the 's' from the 'https', then it will display as a clickable link.

You've listened to my long rants, so I will return the courtesy and check your info out.

My general thoughts about Soros is that he's a shyster.
He's a hedge-fund manager that makes a lot of money helping to overthrow other countries...
With his Open Society Foundation
- And all in the name of 'good intentions', 'apparently'.
I kind of feel as though it's wrong to play both hands at the same time;
It's hard to know whether or not many of these philanthropists genuinely have good intentions or not.
- But I'll certainly check your info out, and try to keep an open mind.

Hi Andris; Foxy and Michi,

I've watched all videos, poems, articles;
I listened to Soros' address at Davos,
- which was a reading of the 'The Fight of Our Lives' article he wrote.
Michi's link didn't work in the forum but I found the article here:
http://www.project-syndicate.org/onpoint/davos-address-open-society-against-russia-china-by-george-soros-2022-05
- FYI the reason the url Michi gave didn't work was because he left out a hyphen in between 'by' and 'george'.
I listened to the questions to Soros by the people in attendance;
I watched the YouTube video from MSNBC - Sen. Warnock: ‘A Vote Is A Kind Of Prayer’ For The World We Desire
I looked up and read the poem 'One Sentence About Tyranny' by Gyula Illyés,
- then I read your article Andris (and saw the poem was included.)

I'm not sure the purpose of the MSNBC video, but will add comment on the events at the January 6 US Capitol Building.

I listened carefully to what Soros has said and have taken notes, and I re-read Foxy's poem.
I've taken it all in and I'm thinking about how to respond.
- It's taken me a couple hours to go through it all.

Armchair Critic,

It sounds like you're putting in a great deal of time
and effort into evaluating everything.

As far as George Soros is concerned I only know him as a
financial speculator. However I like what he had to say
back in 1998 when he spoke of reason, the supremacy of
science, and the universal brotherhood of humans, as the
pillars on which we can build a better future.

That George Soros should laud these things to me shows
that a business person as much as an ecological scientist
or a moral philosopher can willingly embrace what is important
to achieve sustainability on our planet. And surely that is
a good thing.

Hi Foxy,
Yes I've gone through it all and I could debate things he said point for point.
- But I'm not sure that is what I want to do here.
If I were to do that I could easily write 1000+ words (and did so already in notes I already prepared with about half his article or more) and I'm not even sure what the purpose would be, except to point out how generic and bland his article and viewpoints actually were.

Generally speaking I think he mischaracterised a lot of things, on all topics, whether it be Russia, China, Covid, or his view of the world being open or closed societies.

I sat back and tried to take it all in and look at the broader picture, and most of all I looked at what involvement he himself had of the events that have now taken place.

I thought about his own involvement in the overthrow of the Yanukovych government in 2014 as well as the Orange revolution in 2004, as well as other coloured revolutions in the region around the same time.
I also thought about Zbigniew Brzezinski's book 'The Grand Chessboard'.

I came across another article I'd rather share instead.
http://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/revisiting-our-secret-role-in-ukraines-2004-orange-revolution

Keep in mind Foxy this is an article written by a left-leaning writer.
Yves Engler has been dubbed "one of the most important voices on the Canadian Left today"

In it you'll at least get some confirmation of the things I've been trying to say to you. USAID, National Endowment for Democracy, George Soros Open Society Foundation, plus a whole lot of Foreign State Actors, and pushing the country towards Western Monetery policy.

I'm not sure this is the best article,
http://ukraineworld.org/articles/infowatch/mythical-soros-buys-ukrainian-land-teaches-kids-and-creates-new-party
- But it will let you see that things are a lot more complicated than what it seems on the outside.

[Cont.]
Maybe I should have my 2 cents on Climate Change.
For the record, I'm not against things that are better for the environment.

Take this article for example:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-06/nsw-sheep-farmer-plants-15000-trees-on-property-/101123228
I think it's a great idea, and we should be doing more of these kinds of things.
I support better ideas and ingenuity that we decide and put forward for our own betterment.
What I'm opposed to is rule by foreign treaty, and policy built around targets imposed by elites and unelected foreign beaurecrats, I myself see this as a different kind of tyranny and I don't support it.
I was particularly peeved today with many people struggling with the cost of living, talk of impending rolling blackouts, war on coal, on the one side, and Albo increasing the Climate Change targets on the other. It seems like a complete disconnect to me.

I was taught 'Don't cut your nose off to spite your face', and that's why I think much of these climate change policies amount to.

Let me tell you the pain hasn't even been felt yet, there's going to be more interest rate rises to curb inflation, and people are going to lose their homes and businesses and in some cases jobs, and people renting are going to be costed out of the market and living in tents.

[Cont.]
Right now, I'm more interested in the Ukrainian biolab situation, and Western State Sponsored Media Censorship.

Why was it that the day the war started the Government of Ukraine ordered all evidence burned?
(Skip to 33mins and see the footage for yourselves)
http://youtu.be/AQQFULSPqLg

These people aren't working on a common cold.
How do you all feel about NAZI's doing human experiments with bio-weapons on psychiatric patients?
I'd heard rumours about this already, it reads like Joseph Mengler all over again.

http://twitter.com/RealGeorgeWebb1/status/1537677004736282624/photo/1
http://twitter.com/RealGeorgeWebb1/status/1537677004736282624/photo/2
http://twitter.com/RealGeorgeWebb1/status/1537677004736282624/photo/3
http://twitter.com/RealGeorgeWebb1/status/1537677004736282624/photo/4

You talk about freedom and liberty?
(I guess these are the opposite of tyranny, right?)

Do you support the current state of things where some talking points are promoted and others are suppressed,
all to manipulate our knowledge and understanding of what's actually going on around us.
- That's not a free society at all, is it?
It's a different kind of tyranny.
http://youtu.be/phg8D2C_q80
http://youtu.be/_snYUbfPBe0

Hi Armchair Critic

I thank you for attending to the references I gave you, though you did not respond much to their contents.

I read with interest your references.

I found no smoking gun in the references you provided either against George Soros or the Canadian government.

I am all for legitimate investment by the West in developing and strengthening civic pro-democracy groups in dictatatorial regimes or in fledging democracies.

Dictators fear nothing more than a strong civic society where organisations are committed to free speach and democracy.

This is how Walesa's trade union movement, backed by the West and the Pope, was able to mobilise people power successfully against the Soviet puppet regime in Poland too.

I have no problem with the Orange Revolution in Ukraine having been ultimately staged by an Ukrainian people power movement, even if it was assisted by the West.

I am all for non-violent resistance to dictatorships both outside of Western democracies and inside them e.g. against the attempt of the military industrial complex within Western democracies to subjugate democracies to serve their warmongering, profit oriented purposes.

It is one thing to recognise faults in Western democracies but it is another to fall for the pro-Russian propaganda campaign financed by Russia and in the West by, for example, by Murdoch's Fox News, and its fascist offshoots.

Germany has all the right to lay charges against so called independent journalists who simply perpetrate Russian lies in the Ukraine war.

And be careful which source's info. you assume to be fact.
A classic mistake you make is your believing ex-Fox news crimianlly convicted real estate fraudster Clayton Morris.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_snYUbfPBe0 which you quoted.

Look at the conclusion of his loss of a multimillion dollars real estate fraud case here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMDgF9FDN7M
entitled: CLAYTON MORRIS LOSES $7 MILLION LAW suit. See last few minutes of the video.

Continued below.

(continued)

As to your claim Armchair Critic:

'war on coal, on the one side, and Albo increasing the Climate Change targets on the other. It seems like a complete disconnect to me.'

No, I think it is a perfect connect.

Not only is coal the major contributor to climate warming, it is also the most inefficient and most expensive fuel for running power generators.

An important reason for our black out crisis has been the breakdown of a staggering one third of the Morrison-Barnaby Jones-loved coal generators in Australia.

They are the most unreliable and expensive power generators.

The sooner the subsidies for them and much more are spent on the cheaper and more efficient renewable power generators, the quicker we move out of the threat of blackouts while simultaneously not contributing more to a climate catastrophy.

All the best Foxy.

Hi Armchair Critic,

I can only speak from my and my family's own
experiences. As you probably know - my family
experienced life under the soviet regime.
They lost everything. Their country, family
members, and much more. I was born in Australia.

I know that the West is not perfect and mistakes
have been and still are being made. But from
my family's experiences - I prefer the West to
any totalitarian regime.

We all hail from a myriad of backgrounds, ethnicities
and family structures. Many of us think differently.
Papa taught me that no one should make the assumption
that we all grew up in the same buble.

Diversity and tolerance are important and it must of
course be afforded to political minorities. We
should be celebrating diversity of thought - in the
same way we celebrate all other forms of diversity
sharing unique experiences and offering varying
viewpoints. This can only strengthen a society more.

We are fortunate that in our country we can do this.
In present day totalitarian countries - you'd end up
in jail or dead - if you tried.

The UN Secretary-General Ban Ki Moons stated a few years
ago that:

" We're living through a period of global transition. New
centres of power and economic dynamism are emerging.
Technology is connecting us ever more closely, and
cross-cultural exchanges are deepening every day - but this
does not mean there is more understanding. Societies are more
diverse but intolerance is on the rise in too many places."

"Poverty, hunger and disease remain at unacceptable levels.
There are no individual solutions to these multi-faceted and
inter-related challenges. We can only advance as a community
of nations and cultures drawing on human solidarity and
recognizing we share a common destiny. "

Hi Andris,

Thank You for your kind words.

Oh Andris, you comment on the generators is way off the mark.
Everyone seems to think they should never breakdown or need
maintenance at any time. If the dills did not go around blowing up
power stations then we would have continued to have plenty of backup.
Imagine being that stupid not to mothball them, just in case !

Then the regulators gave priority access to the grid to the renewables
so the power stations just sat there twiddling their thumbs while
going broke.
BTW, I see one of the windfarms in NSW has shut down because they went broke.
Does anyone know if Hazlewood has been dismantled ?

All this kerfuffle is because so many people have been taken in by the
global warming rubbish.
Give me the answer if it is caused by CO2 why does the temperature
rise first and then the co2 rises ? Bit A up isn't it ?
Anyway, this warming is just another cycle of many, the last one was
about 900->1000 ad.

What gets me is how grown men & women are that deficient in the ability
to see what could possible go wrong and hang on to the stations just
in case they might be needed. And we put them in parliament !
Aaaaarrrrgggghhhh !

Now of course I read that the government is preparing legislation
to be ready for the first meeting of the new parliament to enforce
the 43% reduction in co2 and ensure 80% renewables by 2030 !
Of course already we must have only electric cars by 2030.
I think they have gone totally insane with the complexity they face
and not being able to handle it just have no idea what they are doing
and do anything that someone suggests.

They seem to have no idea of the scale of what they are suggesting.
eg, unfortunately I do not know the maximum output of the panels
that are being used in the solar farms, but the grids max demand is
about 50 Gwatt I believe.
Divide 50,000,000,000 by say 1 Kw and that is the number of panels
that need to be in full midday sunshine.
If the panels are 2Kw than halve the result.
How many panels could a man place onto the frames, connect them up
then get the next one in a day.
Can you see why they reckon it will generate 260,000 jobs ?
However those figures are on mid day sunshine, what is the output
at 4pm on a winter afternoon ? About one third the midday figure.
So if the wind is still not blowing they need three times as many panels.
Even if my guesses are quite wrong, it will still be the same problem.
Then there is the number of wind turbines needed at night when the
wind naturally dies off. The wind is a much more difficult figure
to work out, at least the sun always rises and sets, if not overcast.

Then they want to back it all up with batteries. Sigh.
How many days must they store for still overcast days.
When flat where will they get the power to recharge in one sunny day ?
Grown, they really have gone mad !

BAZZ you say:

'All this kerfuffle is because so many people have been taken in by the
global warming rubbish.'

Yes, 99% of the world's scientists has consensus on human induced catastrophic global warming.

Most of the remaining 1% are bought by the fossil fuel industry to lie.

Yet you know better than the scientific consensus about what is rubbish.

The debate has long been over.

Those who want a livable planet ACT.

No Andris, 99% of scientists do not believe in global warming.
That idea was knocked on the head years ago.
Please explain why the temperature rises and then the co2 rises ?
Anyway it does not matter we have an energy problem right now.

Hey Andris,

Ok, I'll go through what I'd written about Soros and his speech, and your article.

I think I firstly have to not only look at the mindset of what Soros himself said but also look at the mindset of the people in attendance.
As the discussion started out Soros said "Even when the fighting stops, as it eventually must, the situation will never revert to the status quo ante. Indeed, the Russian invasion may turn out to be the beginning of World War III, and our civilization may not survive it."
- That should've been a sombre moment, (like you should've been able to hear a pin drop) but the people in attendance clapped and cheered.

When it later came to questions from those in attendance, I felt like the people asking questions were more interested in trying to crawl up his backside for their own self-aggrandisment and a seat at the adults table than being left seated at the kiddies tables than anything else.

Soros began by talking about Open Societies v's Closed Societies.
"In an open society, the role of the state is to protect the freedom of the individual; in a closed society, the role of the individual is to serve the rulers of the state."
- The thing that came to my mind was JFK's speech, "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."
(This use of antimetabole can be seen even as a thesis statement of his speech—a call to action for the public to do what is right for the greater good.)
It seems to me that Soros statement is at odds with JFK's - JFK was saying it's an individuals role to do what they can for their country,
- which is more in line with Soros definition of a closed society, serving the rulers of the state.
It seemed to me that JFK's definition found a balance built upon the Bill of Rights of the US system (freedom of the individual) whilst also serving the best interests of the country.

Soros seemed to criticise China for protecting International athletes and quaratining individuals in China, indeed it seems he was criticising Xi for not cancelling the Olympics altogether.

And it's as though he found a way to pull the wool over peoples eyes in continuing to ostrasise Xi Xinping, when he admitted it was successful in protecting athletes and global visitors "Olympics concluded without a hitch". but then noted that further outbreaks then occurred elsewhere, in Shanghai, not Beijing.
Then he seemed to criticise Xi "Xi harbors a guilty secret..." for using vaccines designed for the Wuhan variant, which he admitted were near useless against Omicron.

- This actually pissed me off, I thought's it's a bit hypocritical given we're pushing 4th doses of vaccines that have been unchanged since the beginning of the pandemic.
If he's saying they're useless against Omicrom, then why are we and every other western nation currentlt now pushing 4th booster shots of a vaccine designed for Covid 19 when we have the Omicron variant?

He criticises quarantine facilities, of not allowing people to quarantine at home, (where they would've spread it to friends and family) and hence increased the viral spread.
In the bigger picture it seems he supports the push towards the 'Living with Covid' model,
(and along with it the global powers of the WHO which Tedros almost got last month if not for members of the African Union who opposed it)
- i.e a push towards global government - a sellout of our sovereignty into the hands of foreign bureaucrats.

Then he criticised Putins military operation in Ukraine saying the Russian speaking people didn't welcome Russians.

That's not exactly true,
http://youtu.be/4TSe4A1EuP4

"Instead, Ukraine put up unexpectedly strong resistance and inflicted severe damage on the invading Russian army, which was badly equipped, badly led, and soon became demoralized. The US and the EU rallied to Ukraine’s support and supplied it with armaments. With their help, Ukraine was able to defeat the much larger Russian army in the battle for Kyiv."

Mistakes were made, but truth is the Russian army probably have more combat experience than any other country right now, with Ukraine coming second and the US has been arming and training them for 8 years.

"But Putin had very little to celebrate. Shamanov concentrated his efforts on the port city of Mariupol, which used to have 400,000 inhabitants. He reduced it to rubble, as he had done to Grozny, but the Ukrainian defenders held out for a long time."

I wouldn't say it was a non-achievement the more ground Russia takes, the less Ukraine has, they're losing. I think he was aiming to capture Zelensky (which would have avoided further loss of life) as well as look for biolabs hidden in nuclear facilities. As well as he's succeeded in securing Donetsk region, close to taking all of Luhansk and has taken all the southern part of the country, made a land bridge to Crimea and created enough of a buffer that Crimea and the Kersh Straight bridge is beyond the reach of long range weapons.

If Russia seems bogged down, it's because Ukraine had 8 years to dig in and create multiple lines of defense, as soon as Russian troops get past this, they may take ground a little faster.

Soros talks about Bucha and war crimes, this is not the truth.
It was Ukrainian forces who upon going back into the town when Russia pulled back were shooting collaborators and then used what they did as a context to blame what they did on Russia and to cite war crimes.

Do you think there is not an information war happening?
Do you not think they suppress information they don't want us to know and promote narratives they do?

"The Ukrainians are doing their best, counterattacking, even at times boldly penetrating Russian territory. Such tactics have had the added benefit of bringing home to the Russian population what is really going on."

Obviously he didn't tell the Russian people that he was planning to invade, so there was some shock to the people and a little pushback.
But by and large Putin is supported by Russians.

The stories we hear of Russians being shocked and opposing the war, are 5th columns who will use anything to deliberately stir up dissent. The US has actually been deliberately funding VPN's for the purposes of allowing Western aligned Russians to access western news to deliberately try to destabilite him in Russia.

Do you not understand that weapons the west has been pumping into Ukraine go into a black hole and cant be tracked. You can buy a Javelin on the Dark Web right now for US$30k. It won't be long until some leader is taken out with one, or a commercial airliner is taken down with a stinger. The West has been reckless in its weapons shipments.

Next he talks about a more United Europe, this is exactly why I posted info about Zbigniew Brzezinski's book the Grand Chessboard, it's exactly in line with western plans conceived long ago.

He talks about preventing any Veto-Powers of individial member stats, and of wanting EU (and therefore NATO) expansion.

I'm only halfway through this speech, many things are mischaracterised and above all else, neither Soros or any of the people in attendance raise the issue of Soros' own hand in helping to create the situation as it now exists.

Have you listened to Putin's St Petersburg speech?
http://youtu.be/elt-bfwkWuo
Apparently many Americans are impressed by it and wish they had a leader like him.

ARMCHAIR CRITIC:

You say:

‘Soros began by talking about Open Societies v's Closed Societies.

"In an open society, the role of the state is to protect the freedom of the individual; in a closed society, the role of the individual is to serve the rulers of the state."

- The thing that came to my mind was JFK's speech, "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."
(This use of antimetabole can be seen even as a thesis statement of his speech—a call to action for the public to do what is right for the greater good.)'

To me an Open Society is what Soros says, combined with Kennedy's motto.

A society where'the free development of one is the condition for the free development of all.'
The exact opposite of Putin's fascism.

You say of Soros:

‘i.e a push towards global government - a sellout of our sovereignty into the hands of foreign bureaucrats.’

No, open society is incompatible with global state control.
It is Xi who is devoted to this: for the CCP to rule the world.

You say:

‘Soros talks about Bucha and war crimes, this is not the truth.
It was Ukrainian forces who upon going back into the town when Russia pulled back were shooting collaborators and then used what they did as a context to blame what they did on Russia and to cite war crimes.’

Here you buy into Putin’s fake misinformation again.

Satellite photos taken during Russian control of Bucha prove conclusively that the dead bodies were lying there during and due to the Russian massacre of the people

To Armchair Critic continued:

You say:

‘The US has actually been deliberately funding VPN's for the purposes of allowing Western aligned Russians to access western news to deliberately try to destabilite him in Russia.’

Actually, it is any access to TRUTH which is destabilising for Putin.

You say unbelievably:

‘Have you listened to Putin's St Petersburg speech?
http://youtu.be/elt-bfwkWuo
Apparently many Americans are impressed by it and wish they had a leader like him.'

You’ve got to be kidding!

I listened to the speech: it is misinformation from the beginning to the end.

Putin is a psycho-sociopathic genocidal Fascist, a pathological liar, who lives in a bubble of propaganda far removed from reality

Hi Andris,
Continuing on...

Firstly,

Kennedy advocated the national interest, whereas Soros was criticising national interest.

"i.e a push towards global government - a sellout of our sovereignty into the hands of foreign bureaucrats."

That's exactly what Soros advocated when he was criticised Xi Xinping in regards to the way he handled Covid and the 'Living with Covid' model he seemed to advocate when the end result is that our countries sovereignty is given to the WHO.

"Soros talks about Bucha and war crimes, this is not the truth.
It was Ukrainian forces who upon going back into the town when Russia pulled back were shooting collaborators and then used what they did as a context to blame what they did on Russia and to cite war crimes."

It's not true, and whilst I'm not saying the Russian's are perfect or without any fault at all, the situation is heavily misconstrued for political purposes.
The vast majority of people killed in Bucha were victims of artillery fire, beyond that it was Ukrainians that went and killed collaborators after the Russians pulled back.
I said it earlier and I'll say it again, our media promotes information it wants to sell us, and suppresses information it doesn't want us to know in order to control the narrative.
- Control the input = Control the output.

Dig through some of these links and videos on twitter:
http://en.lb.ua/news/2022/04/02/12441_special_forces_regiment_safari.html
http://twitter.com/JohnBerman/status/1510928210669842435?s=20&t=ytVfog8lGZcY720ghjmbOA
http://www.sott.net/article/466350-Special-Forces-Regiment-SAFARI-Begins-Clearing-Operation-in-Bucha-from-Saboteurs-and-Accomplices-of-Russia-National-Police
http://twitter.com/antiwar_soldier/status/1511147510336794628

"The US has actually been deliberately funding VPN's for the purposes of allowing Western aligned Russians to access western news to deliberately try to destabilite him in Russia."

"Actually, it is any access to TRUTH which is destabilising for Putin."

- If you believe this is how it should be, then why do our own western governments do the same thing?
Why do they suppress information, demonetise, de-platform and threaten our own people with lawfare or imprisonment for sharing information they would want suppressed?
- I can show you instances of western state sponsored media censorship.
Why would you not look at both sides of the argument instead of just one?

Moving on...

"The Ukrainian army must fight on open terrain where the numerical superiority of Russian forces is more difficult to overcome."

This doesn't seem sensible, the Ukrainians are dug in with multiple lines of defense which they built over 8 years since 2014.
The outnumber Ukrainians 10 to 1 with artillery and have better capabilities for airstikes.
It doesn't seem sensible.

"The Ukrainians are doing their best, counterattacking, even at times boldly penetrating Russian territory."

This will only anger Russians more, harden their resolve and bolster support for Putin.
Beyond that the longer this goes on and the more damage inflicted upon Russians, the more land they will take.
This whole thing could've been avoided if Ukrainians had've more sensibly abided by the Minsk agreements which were supported by the UN.
Right now, Russia is going to take the whole Donbass, it's not going to give up Mariupol or the southern coast it has taken as a buffer zone to Crimea or Crimea itself which is now considered Russian territory, voted so by the people living there and has been for 8 years.
If the war continues, conscriped Ukrainians will continue being used as cannon fodder in a war that's in the EU and NATOs interest not Ukrainians.
Russia will take everything west of the Dnipro River, whilst citizens of the West will pay for it in damage to their economies.
The more it drags on the worse of a negotiating position Ukraine will be in.
Russia may even take Odessa.

"The US has also done its best to reduce the financial gap between Russia and Ukraine, most recently by allocating an unprecedented $40 billion in military and financial aid to Ukraine’s government. I can’t predict the outcome, but Ukraine certainly has a fighting chance."

The West has damaged it's own economies and the cost of living of it's citizens, whilst the Russian economy far better than it did before the war began.
The Western position was shortsighted, and their will to send weapons to Ukraine which can't be traced is reckless and will result in global terror attacks later on.

There's multiple reasons Ukraine is so important to Europe,
one is in trying to undermine Russia, and the second is energy security
- Pipelines from east Asia can bypass Russia and reduce Europes dependency on Russian oil gas and energy.

"French President Emmanuel Macron, in a significant broadening of his pro-European approach, has advocated the importance of geographic expansion, and the need for the EU to prepare for it."
Macron is now a 'lame duck' president.

"At Europe’s federal core, no member state would have veto power. In other policy domains, member states could join “coalitions of the willing” or simply retain their veto power."
"Not only Ukraine but also Moldova, Georgia, and the Western Balkans should qualify for EU membership. It will take time to work out the details, but Europe seems to be moving in the right direction. It has responded to the invasion of Ukraine with greater speed, unity, and vigor than ever before in its history."

Soros wants a bigger, stronger more powerful Europe, no matter the cost to individual nations soverignty or what the people themselves want.
They use trade and membership as weapons to achieve their own objectives.

"But Europe’s dependence on Russian fossil fuels remains excessive, owing largely to the mercantilist policies pursued by former German Chancellor Angela Merkel. She had made special deals with Russia for the supply of gas and made China Germany’s largest trading partner. Germany became the best performing economy in Europe, but now there is a heavy price to pay."

He seems to be criticising Merkel for decision that were in the German people interests.

"German Chancellor Olaf Scholz was elected because he promised continuity with Merkel’s policies and style of government. But events forced him to abandon continuity, which did not come easy, because he had to break with some hallowed traditions of his own Social Democratic Party."

Now he seems to be praising Olaf shultz decisions that have damaged the German economy

"When it comes to maintaining European unity, however, Scholz always seems to do the right thing in the end. He suspended the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, committed €100 billion ($104.8 billion) to defense, and provided arms to Ukraine, breaking with a long-standing taboo."

Soros himself is reckless and cares about his dream of a larger Europe, and less about the people who live there.

"Giving Putin permission to launch an unsuccessful attack against Ukraine didn’t serve China’s best interests. Although China ought to be the senior partner in the alliance with Russia, Xi’s lack of assertiveness allowed Putin to usurp that position."

A militarily weakened Russia make give China an opening to later take Russia's Far Eastern territories, which he is no doubtedly eyeing off for it's oil, gas and energy potential.

"The continuing lockdowns have had disastrous consequences, pushing the Chinese economy into a free fall since March."

They've also done damage to the West, which now also relies heavily on imports from China.

"Coming on top of the real-estate crisis, the damage will be so great that it will affect the global economy. With the disruption of supply chains, global inflation is liable to turn into global depression."

"For the West, the dilemma in dealing with Russia is that the weaker Putin gets, the more unpredictable he becomes. The member states of the EU feel the pressure. They realize that Putin may not wait until they develop alternative sources of energy before turning off the gas taps himself, while it really hurts, as he has done to Bulgaria, Poland, and Finland."

If China is the greater evil, then the West should've been working with and supporting Russia which is no longer a communist country.
All they've succeeded in doing is to make a bad situation worse.

- This is my 4th and last daily comment, I'll finish it up and discuss your poem and article and more tomorrow.

"Scholz is particularly anxious because of the special deals Merkel made with Russia."

Tell me were those deals in Germany's best interest?
Why would you criticise them unless you are not like a normal citizen and are instead thinking and acting like an elite, who was grand European ambitions.
Soros isn't like the rest of us.
He talks about giving hundreds of millions of dollars creating this mess.
He's not going to lose his job and struggle to feed his kids.
I don't really comprehend the common sense in any of it.
Germany has destroyed it's own economy trying to prolong this war.

Jens Stoltenberg says the war could last for years.
http://thehill.com/policy/international/3528991-nato-chief-says-ukraine-war-could-last-for-years/
New UK Army commander tells soldiers 'get ready to fight Russia in World War 3'
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/britains-army-must-ready-fight-27272629
These people don't care who suffers, and they aren't going to fight anyone themselves.
They'll send other peoples kids to do that.

"Draghi is more courageous, although Italy’s gas dependency is almost as high as Germany’s. Europe’s cohesion will face a severe test, but if it continues to act together, it could strengthen both Europe’s energy security and leadership on climate change."

- That's because Draghi supports a partially federated Europe.
Russia's cut gas supply to Italy as well, so the Italian people will be suffering and paying for this prolonged war, all of us will, the whole entire West.
http://www.euractiv.com/section/energy-environment/news/italy-considers-state-of-alert-over-russian-gas-cut/

Do you understand all this is because Europe and NATO want to expand their sphere of interest to other countries, and remove themselves from Russian energy dependence.
Why do you think they want Georgia a part of Europe.
- Oil pipelines - Energy from western Asia.

If the Western system was so good it would rule by example not by an Iron Fist under the pretense of democracy.

"Meanwhile, as the war in Ukraine rages on, the fight against climate change has had to take second place."

Always bloody climate change.
At what cost exactly?

We'll all be dead by them from WWIII and the climate will recover.

Russian TV threatens 'UK's nuclear annihilation with giant radioactive tsunami & Satan-2 missiles'
http://youtu.be/7SnTkc0r6gk

‘We'll burn anything to keep people warm’ – Czech official
http://www.rt.com/business/557571-czech-republic-gas-energy/

The whole of Europe is moving back to coal now.
Everyone is, and all these big talks about renewables, well who do you think owns all the lithium? China.

China Looks to Africa in Race for Lithium
http://www.voanews.com/a/china-looks-to-africa-in-race-for-lithium/6603201.html

Germany committed 8 Billion to help Africa to help them move to renewables for Climate Change, and it's fired up the coal stations itself.
http://www.africanews.com/2022/05/24/south-africa-s-ramaphosa-discusses-developments-in-africa-during-a-visit-from-germany-s-sc//
All this for Ukraine?
To prolong a war and use their conscripted boys, men and retirees as Russian cannon fodder?

If you want to know what I think about Climate Change read what I wrote here
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9848#335365

This climate change agenda started from The Club of Rome, which was founded by Prince Bernhard, who also started the Bilderberg group.
Klaus Schwab started the WEF, knew about the pandemic in advance, planned the 'Great Reset' and his father worked for IG Farben who was the biggest contractor for NAZI Germany.

What's all this for?
http://twitter.com/FBNHistory/status/1538875705378881538

The conspiracy theorists were right.
What the WEF just did at Davos is insane, and we should all get ready | Redacted with Clayton Morris
http://youtu.be/qkujMSZoaoQ

Now as for Clayton Morris, I almost forgot about your criticisms.
- To put it simply, I don't support him in doing the wrong thing if what you said is true.
But just because he supposedly once did something wrong,
- doesn't mean that I'm going to automatically dismiss other things he says if those other things he says hold merit.
- This kind of thinking isn't logical.

This whole 'he did something wrong once' so he can't ever be trusted is pure BS.
Are you so perfect that you're like Jesus and have never done a thing wrong in your life?
I'm not perfect, I've done things I regret, it's a part of being a human being.
I'd like to think that Clayton Morris, if guilty of what you say he did also regrets what he did.
- But other people are stealing plenty more than he supposedly tried to do.

Now as for your poem and article...
- I've got 2 things to say about it.

Firstly, neither the poem or article resonates with me the same as it does for you.
I didn't live in that time or place and it doesn't create the kind of raw emotion for me that it does for you and probably plenty of other people like yourself that also lived those experiences in those times.

But I think its also a double-edged sword.
- In that it makes you biased, and you can't think clearly.
Just the thought of Russia invading another country, in which in this case it's actually defending its own security interests and Russian speaking people;
You (and Foxy as well) are automatically taken back to those times like some form of post traumatic stress disorder, and automatically fear red terror will reign across eastern Europe and the Balkan states all over again, and this kind of thinking makes you biased.
- And I truly hope you don't take what I've said offensively, because again I didn't live through those times.
I can only comment on what I see going on in front of me.

From main article:
"The critics argue that the West, led by the US, has an open-ended commitment to prolonging the war in Ukraine by supplying it with ever more weapons. The hope was that this, together with comprehensive sanctions, would force Putin to end his war."

Russia completely surprised NATO
http://youtu.be/5gfRMKcHmWc

German TV Guest Tells TRUTH About The Ukraine War
http://youtu.be/mkhy0Blfhj8