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Jerusalem: a flashpoint for conflict or microcosm of peace : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 14/5/2021

There will be no Israeli-Palestinian peace unless East Jerusalem becomes the capital of a Palestinian state while the city remains united.

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What SR and other apologists for the Hamas terrorists refuse to acknowledge is the form of the attack by Hamas.

The majority of rockets fired are the Katusha type rockets modelled from those fired in from the "Stalin organs" in WW2 designed with warheads to explode and shower the target area with shrapnel and fired in barrages have a similar effect to cluster bombs (also known as daisy cutters)

Hamas deliberately fire these anti-personnel weapons at densely populated civilian areas and the only reason that there aren't scores of Israeli dead is because of the Iron domes that shoot down 90% of the rockets. This is indisputably a war crime

Secondly, Hamas fires these rockets from heavily populated areas in Gaza so that if Israel retaliates against the launch sites there will be civilian casualties. This is also indisputably a war crime.

By contrast, the Israelis go to extreme lengths to minimise Palestinian civilian casualties frequently giving warnings so civilians can be evacuated from Hamas military assets before they are destroyed.

This conflict can easily be stopped as several times before if Hamas simply stops firing rockets.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 17 May 2021 1:34:27 PM
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Bazz,

The last conflict occurred in 2014 while Obama was in power.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 17 May 2021 1:39:15 PM
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Trump would have prevented this conflict?
Hardly.

It was Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital that emboldened the Zionists and effectively removed the rights of Palestinians to have an ongoing presence there and abandoned the possibility of future good-faith negotiations with them.

It was the subsequent property seizure and evictions in Sheikh Jarrah that provoked the Hamas retaliation.

Bush temporarily halted previous evictions by withholding loan guarantees and Obama also pressured Netanyahu into a pause but the Israelis really treat the USA with disdain, despite them being their greatest supporter in the UN by looking the other way when it comes to war crimes and atrocities.

Trump just relit the fuse and gave them the tacit approval they were seeking to make a move.

The Palestinians really have nothing left to lose and standing up to the fourth greatest military power in the world with home-made rockets will be ultimately futile. Israel is probably hoping to be able to finally invade and occupy Gaza once and for all - another step close to their long-range plan for Greater Israel.
Posted by rache, Monday, 17 May 2021 3:46:29 PM
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Gauwd Rache,
you seemed to have missed a lot of what has been going on.
The only negotiation that the Arabs have spoken of is when will all
Jews leave.
The properties under dispute were occupied by Arabs that would not pay
their rent. So the owners took them to court to be expelled.
They didn't like the decision and the riots got fired up.
The tenants claimed ownership, but had no documentation except to say
the paid Ismail for the properties. They could not produce Ismail.
They appealed to the Supreme court and changed their claim from being
owners to tenants. The decision is yet to come.

To sum up the who;e thing is a beatup from just a rent argument.
In reality it has been going on since Mohammad sent his offsiders
North to invade.
Frankly the rest of us are fedup with Islam and its nutcase followers.
This has been going on for 1400 years and sooner or later there will
be a violent reaction from all the rest of us.
At some point Islam will upset the Chinese and that will be interesting to watch.
Watch the re-education then.
Islam must go !
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 17 May 2021 8:30:13 PM
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Dear mhaze,

What a mendacious little troll you have a tendency to portray nowadays.

There is nothing at all to suggest Nahum Goldmann, a totally committed Zionist by the way, made this up.

Ben-Gurion made similar remarks in a 1938 speech where he said: Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.”

For you to use this to unjustifiably refute the body of rache's posts is just pathetic but then to heap it with 'jew-hatred' slur is utterly indefensible and any normal person would be ashamed.

You are a flog mate.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 17 May 2021 9:36:12 PM
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ArmChair writes: "Or flattening 10 story buildings full of foreign reporters.". In fact there was no one in the building since the Israeli's had given adequate warning of the demolition of Hamas's intelligence HQ.

Yeah they work there mhaze.
I'll tell you why they wanted that building down.
What does that building have that no other buildings have?
... You see those dirty big antennas on the roof, derr?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 17 May 2021 9:37:11 PM
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