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Jerusalem: a flashpoint for conflict or microcosm of peace : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 14/5/2021

There will be no Israeli-Palestinian peace unless East Jerusalem becomes the capital of a Palestinian state while the city remains united.

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Shadowminister,

Out running with IDF lies again?

There is nothing to suggest Hamas places rocket launches in places designed to guard them from strikes by using human shields. Every time this is raised it gets shot down. The facts on the ground never bears this out. But here you are, once again of cue, being an apologist for the war criminals in the Israeli government and IDF.

Utterly typical.

This is what is happening right now.

“The Israeli air strikes hit a busy street in Gaza just after midnight on Sunday, causing at least three buildings to collapse and dozens of deaths.”
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57131272

Why? Because Israel wanted to strike at a hidden tunnel. How on earth do you do that with a missile on a busy Gaza street and not to expect casualties? Another 10 Palestinian children dead to your obvious glee. Only the brain dead like yourself would lap this up and regurgitate crap about Israeli minimising civilian deaths. How on earth is a tunnel an offensive weapon?

More from the IDF “It said it had also struck the homes of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar and his brother Muhammad Sinwar, whom it described as head of logistics and manpower for the movement.” Are the homes of Israeli leaders also fair game in this? What is the risk to their families? This isn't a war crime either in your mind? Of course not.

You are a nasty hate filled individual convinced you are on the side of might.

Give it a rest.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 17 May 2021 9:53:38 PM
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Good point.
It's kind of funny how it's portrayed that the people they say ARE the terrorists...

- Are NOT the ones blowing other peoples leaders up in their beds at home, with women and kids and elderly family and blood and bodybits all over the place.

The people they defend ARE THE ONES WHO DO blow other peoples leaders up in their beds at home, with women and kids and elderly family and blood and bodybits all over the place.

Is this not what our leaders mean when they say 'Israel has a right to defend itself'?

Are they not giving these kinds of actions their silent consent?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 17 May 2021 11:24:33 PM
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Bazz,

Sorry but you're just following the typical apologists' argument.

That same bogus property dispute also happened earlier in 2012 at both Sheikh Jarrah and also at Beit Hanina when it was determined by the UN that Israel's actions were in violation of Article 49 of the Geneva Convention (not that they give a stuff anyway)and there is no rent due because there is no landlord involved.

Israel was acting under it's own law but that does not apply in occupied territories which automatically falls under International law which prohibits the transfer of an occupying power's civilian population into occupied territory - as they have been doing for decades in Palestine as well as the resurgence in Jerusalem. Israel has no respect for International law unless it benefits them but runs screaming for justice when things don't go their way.

Using their law in defiance is no different from them quoting that "God gave this land to us" from a book they wrote in the first place.

In any case that law is especially discriminatory because it prevents Palestinians from reclaiming their former property within Israel under the same circumstances, but then again they are an apartheid state after all.

Also, as well as the buildings targetted for television, here are some details about the location of casualties -
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/4380/Horrific-crimes:-Israel-destroys-homes-with-families-inside-%E2%80%93-19-families-targeted,-53-Palestinians-killed
More violations of International law happening there too.

The best thing the world can do about Jerusalem is give everyone an hour to evacuate the place, nuke it and see who wants to fight over the ashes. That would solve one problem anyway.
Posted by rache, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 12:42:22 AM
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SR

Your obvious pleasure in the death of Israeli civilians shows that you are still an antisemite troll.

There is plenty of evidence that Hamas fires weapons from and stores munitions in populated civilian areas even to the point of there being video footage of Hamas setting up and firing rockets next to occupied homes.

The tunnels to which you refer are refuges for Hamas that civilians don't get to use and are used to store weapons etc. The bombs dropped on these tunnels and bunkers were bunker busters and primarily killed Hamas terrorists and destroyed their munitions.

If Israel had fired an artillery barrage into Gaza there would already be 1000s of dead.

So stop spouting Hamas's antisemitic propoganda.
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 2:59:33 AM
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Sounds to me like Palestine still exists only because of the restraints by Israel !
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 8:02:13 AM
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Rache, the article I read named the two organisations that own the
properties involved and they presented to the court the appropriate
documentation, However it does not matter now as the occupiers have
admitted that they are tenants and not owners.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 18 May 2021 9:37:05 AM
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