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Jerusalem: a flashpoint for conflict or microcosm of peace : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 14/5/2021

There will be no Israeli-Palestinian peace unless East Jerusalem becomes the capital of a Palestinian state while the city remains united.

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What could possibly make these people come to their senses ?
Posted by individual, Sunday, 16 May 2021 8:54:23 AM
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"Israel is now the only country on Earth that is expected to allow itself to be attacked. To sit back and do nothing as its citizens are pelted with rocks or rockets." (Brendan O'Neill)
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 16 May 2021 11:28:33 AM
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I agree with Dr Alon Ben-Meir's viewpoint about
East Jerusalem - however sadly I very much doubt
if the US President will move in this direction
or if he would succeed.

After all Israel's policy
has existed for decades - and it has been -
permanent control of the " maximum amount of land
with the minimum amount of Arabs."

Permanent conflict punctuated by periodic carnage
is inscribed into the very DNA of the Israeli-Palestinian
relationship (for nearly 75 years) .

Israel is a Jewish state.
In practice this means, Israel's institutions, its
policies, are designed to ensure the perpetuation of
a Jewish majority who are accorded superior rights and
privileges.

Chief amongst these policies is the reservation of the
lion's share of land within Israel (- which can be freely
acquired for collective Jewish ownership) .

Even without this depredation routinely meted out to
Palestinian citizens of Israel ( - who make up 20% of the
population) , the different status of the Jewish and
Palestinian communities as a matter of policy is enough
to ensure permanent mutual hostility
between Palestinians and the state and the
deepening antagonism between their communities.

I wish President Biden and the international
communities to take a stronger stance
and try to force a two state solution
in Israel. East Jerusalem as the capital of
Palestine would be a good start.

However, -

With the absence of international political
will - this conflict will persist until there is a change
in the balance of power. That either results in
Palestinian capitulation or somehow - fundamentally transforms Israel.

It does not appear that this will happen any time soon.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 16 May 2021 1:12:45 PM
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cont'd ...

For anyone interested in reading more on this complex
subject I would strongly recommend the book -
"Once Upon A Country," by Sari Nusseibeh.

The author has is a moderate (hated by extremists on
both sides). He was Prof. of Philosophy and a former
President of Al Quds University in Jerusalem. Until
2002 - He was the representative of the Palestinian
National Authority in that city.

The book covers not only his life but generations of
Palestinians. It is worth a reader. And is a balanced
work.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 16 May 2021 1:42:10 PM
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Foxy,
I just cannot see your suggestion being acceptable to the Israelis.
It all goes back to the beginning with Mohammad's treaty with the
Jews of Mecca.
Despite the treaty his forces attacked and defeated the Jews at Badr.
It is from that time that Allah revealed to him to never make friends
of Jews or Christians.
There was another time that Mohammad attacked a Jewish village and
slaughtered the inhabitants.
The name of that village is still used as a threat to Jews.
Its name was Qurayzah the warriors were killed and
the women and children taken as captives. This might be Mohammad's
start of his slave trader career.
Just had a thought, as it is blasphemy to make images of him it has
saved the woke from going around knocking down statues of slave traders, hi !
Allah seems to have made a habit of making very convenient revelations.
Islam can never make a real treaty with moslems, only deceptive ones.

Unfortunately Foxy, that is built in to the Koran and cannot be changed.
So the Jews will never surrender any part of Jerusalem that
they now hold, after all it is the Arabs that are the occupiers from
when Mohammad's successors invaded Mesopotamia in the late 700s.
From there they invaded Persia and India and look at the trouble they
left there !

Just in case anyone wonders, no I am not Jewish being of the fourth
nation descendants. It is just a casual amateur interest in history.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 16 May 2021 2:16:38 PM
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Made 2 mistakes, it was not the 700s that the moslems captured Jerusalem
but much earlier in 638 ad.
The name used to threaten Jews is Khaybar an Oasis where Jews were living.
Same story though, kill the warriors sell the women and children.
He ordered the Tribal chief killed, selected a woman, killed her
husband, and married her, consummated the marriage all in one day.
This is the perfect man we should all emulate ?
And they call us men all sorts of names, oh dear.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 16 May 2021 3:02:36 PM
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