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Electoral fraud revealed in Michigan : Comments

By David Singer, published 30/11/2020

The same pattern of election fraud and voter fraud writ large occurred in all the swing states with only minor variations in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona and Wisconsin.

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My brother-in-law, now deceased, was a judge in NSW, very conservative, voted Liberal always. I liked the times we had political discussions as BIL would, although conservative, liked to understand all aspects of the argument. How many times during these discussions would BIT retreat to the position of "the law is". He always put the law above politics, even if it meant an outcome he didn't personally favour.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 7:04:22 AM
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Paul said;
The Supreme Court very quickly determined that the Texas case had no
merit in points of law, and quickly chucked it out.

Actually what they said was Texas had no standing in the court.
They did not consider the merits of the points of law.
Big difference.
Just read about all the paperwork it all goes through.
It is ridiculously complicated.
We count the votes and usually by midnight we know who is the next
government and PM.
Their system started even before the telegraph and so had to rely on
horse carried messages. It is about time they modernised it.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 9:50:03 AM
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Hi Bazza, jam-up and Paul

Texas is history.

The Electoral College voted today in affirming Trump lost and Biden Won. Hopefully Trump's pathological resistence to the fair vote result reality will now cease. But probably not.

Trump has just effectively sacked his own Attorney-General, Barr, just 35 days prior to the Trump Admin ending. This is because Barr told the public the truth that there was no major voter fraud.

Again read Paul's words of wisdom:

"Trump was banking on conservative judges putting aside the law and applying their political partisanship to the outcome. Trump was seriously mistaken to think that way. Like in Australia and Britain, American judges take their oath of office most seriously and will steadfastly apply the law, even when it goes against their political grain."
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 10:44:36 AM
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Bazz,

There should be no argument that Trump got a fair hearing and at the end of the day he lost fair and square. What appears to have happened is, there was a strong polarisation of the vote. Record numbers turned out to vote for Trump, but equally, or should I say there was a grater anti Trump vote which resulted in Biden's victory. Biden didn't win the election, Trump lost it! Long before the vote took place, Trump had telegraphed that should things pan out as they did, he was going to cry foul, and claim "wez waz robbed!", without creditable evidence that's exactly what he did.

If a blinkered far right view, along with Trump's unsubstantiated ravings on the subject prevents you and others from seeing that, so be it.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 6:02:03 PM
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Hi Paul

While today's vote appears to have curtailed Trump's LEGAL challenges.

Trump will run a campaign of POLITICAL challenges until Thursday 7th January (our time) 2021: see http://uk.reuters.com/article/usa-election/electoral-college-will-vote-monday-confirming-bidens-u-s-presidential-win-idUSKBN28O0FM

"Trump’s sole remaining gambit is to convince Congress to reject the results in January.

Under federal law, any member of Congress may object to a particular state’s electoral count during the Jan. 6 [US time] session. Each chamber of Congress must then debate the challenge before voting by simple majority on whether to sustain it.

The Democratic-controlled House of Representatives is sure to reject any such challenge, while senior Republicans in the Senate on Monday dismissed the idea of overturning the result."

COMMENT

Senior Republican Senators dismissing "the idea of overturning the result." looks promising.

BUT "morals like a Mafia Boss" President TRUMP has not yet leaned on Republican Senators, to get them to block the House of Representative's virtually automatic confirmation of the Electoral College decision.

The Senate IS LIKELY to accede on 6/7 Jan, but nothing is certain under Trump's threatening rule.
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 6:33:31 PM
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I don't have a clue where it goes from here.
Reading some reports on examination of the Dominion ballot accumulating
computer it seems like it has all the obviously required functions.
However one obvious problem is the rejected ballot because they are
invalid because of voters mistakes and are held for adjustment.
In bulk all rejects can be made valid by setting all held ballots
to vote for one candidate at the selection of the election officer.
So all a election officer would have to do would be to turn the corner
over on a ballot and the mark sensing reader would invalidate the
ballot and it would go for validation.I guess almost all of us would have used
"Settings" to set a computer program for our use.
It appears that these computers have such a function in their manual.
However could there be undocumented settings options ?
Only by getting the source code and recompiling and comparing the
produced program with the one in a used machine before it was switched off.
A store dump would be essential.
That is what the companies now engaged to examine them now face.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 6:55:42 PM
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