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"The expression ..( and do not transgress) towards the end of the verse, according to the majority of the commentators means - 'do not go beyond the limit in fighting as to start killing women and children'. "

" …..the verse 191,…. (And kill them: wherever you find them and drive them out from where they drove you out...), was revealed after the happening at Hudaybiyyah at a time when the Holy Prophet & decided, in accordance with the condition agreed upon in the Peace Treaty of Hudaybiyyah, to embark on a journey to Makkah to perform the qadi' of 'Umrah along with his Companions, something he was stopped from doing a year before by the disbelievers of Makkah. The noble Companions, on the eve of this projected journey, had started to worry about the disbelievers who could not be trusted upon in a peace treaty. If they chose to be aggressive, as they did a year before, what option are they going to take? Thereupon, the words used in the present verse gave them the permission to meet the challenge of their aggression and kill them where they find them. And if they could, it was permissible for them to drive the disbelievers out from where they had driven the believers out."

That concludes the commentary to Qu'ran 2:190-191

In relation to the article, that was from Jan 2015. I'm no fan of Hizbut Tahir but you'll notice it was the journalist, not HT, who said " They were told Australia's democratic government has to go in favour of an Islamic Caliphate ruled by Sharia Law." and there was nothing in what the journalist quoted that supported the headline: Muslim army in Australia. The journalist states he had a full recording of the proceedings so if such a remark was actually made he would have quoted it directly. So the journalist has deliberately misrepresented what took place.

Like I said, don't let yourself be played for a fool

One interpretation of the Koran is no more relevant than another. It says what it says, you cannot take one interpretation and claim it as the only truth.

Grateful: You'll see how critically important it is to defer to scholars for interpretation of the Qur'aan.

Yes, well you want to talk to you fellow compatriots about that.

Grateful: And kill them wherever you find them and drive them out from where they drove you out, and Fitnah (to create disorder) is more severe than to kill.

Meaning that if you sneak in pretending to be refugees to a Country & they don’t want you & send you back then that is a declaration of War against Islam & therefore moslems have the right to take up arms & create havoc in that country.

Grateful: Muslims should fight only those disbelievers who come to fight against them.

This is generally interpreted by Islam as anyone who refuses anything a moslem demands is declaring War on Islam. Such as refusing to convert. Sending them out of the country they have infiltrated (as in Australia, EU & the UK) refusing not to eat Pork, Refusing to allow them to build a mosque. Wearing moslen inappropriate clothing (Bikini) & Banning the birka, etc.

Grateful: 'The Holy Prophet has prohibited the killing of women and children.'

I notice they take a lot of notice of that one. Eh!

Grateful: Do not kill anyone old and weak, any young child or any woman.'

Or that one.

Grateful: "fighting against disbelievers was prohibited prior to the emigration to Madina is a fact the entire Muslim community agrees upon.

Yes I know the story. Muhhomad was beaten twice at Medina. So he sent his emiseries into Medina to convince the Jews to rise up against the Christians & they would be spared & given part of the spoil. The Jews joined him & they combined to beat the Christians then the moslems massacred the Jews. It’s called “Taqiyya” isn’t it. Proving that you can never trust anything a moslem says.

You are full of crap grateful. I see another one of your Compatriots got caught planning to wage War on Australia today.

//just whose side are you going to be on Tony//

Who is Tony? Are you talking to voices that only you can hear, Jayb? My name is Toni. If you don't like it, you may call me 'sir', 'dude', 'cobber', 'comrade', any title you like really. But please cease and desist from misspelling my name. I extend you the same courtesy, don't I?

Now that we've got that misunderstanding cleared up: I'll be on the side of the civilised people, fighting every step of the way against barbarity. My ancestors have worked too long and hard, and survived against the odds against one too many Potato Famine, for me to not stand against barbarity. I'll be fighting against those who want to drag our civilisation into the mire of sword, fire and rape. I'll be fighting to preserve the things that matter, likes books and science and logic. When the call is made, all who fly under the banner of House Ravenclaw will flock to the side of Reason.

Knowledge is Power!

And all that lovely talk while they are tearing themselves apart in
that cesspit known as the Middle East.

No point worrying about it, they are Arabs and that is what they do.

TL: But please cease and desist from misspelling my name. I extend you the same courtesy, don't I?

My apologies, just a slip, there is no need to go ballistic Toni.

Anyway, nice deflection, but I'll catch it on the Boundary. I'll put the question another way. Will you join the West or will you join with the moslems when the "S#it hits the Fan?" A direct question requires a direct answer. If you deflect again I'll know where you stand.

O' my friend grateful
Come on, let us hear
crap by the spadeful
give us another, Taqiyya.