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A primer on Islam and Islamism : Comments
By Babette Francis, published 30/11/2016It is not only a religion but a totalitarian political ideology which encompasses every detail of life including how one washes oneself.
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Posted by grateful, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 4:44:43 PM
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//it sounds like you are planning a terrorist act.//
Yes... given his previous comments in favour of barbarity and beheading, I think maybe somebody should report this clearly disturbed person to the terrorist hotline before he hurts somebody. Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 6:15:09 PM
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Grateful: Because you make up stories with a view to promoting hatred and violence.
Don’t you ever watch the News https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/26035713/call-for-muslim-army-in-australia/#page1 Grateful: sounds like you are planning a terrorist act. It sounds like moslems are planning more than a Terrorist attack. Let me quote the Koran. All though you would know these verses of by heart. Ch 2 v191. Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. Ch2 v216. Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. Ch 4 v 95. Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the Cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home): unto all (in faith) hath Allah promised good: but those who strive and fight hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward. Ch 8:39: “And fight them until there is no more disbelief in Islam and the religion will all be for Allâh Alone...” Ch 9:123: “O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allâh is with those who are the pious.” I could go on & on & on. If a moslems demands a kuffer do something & they refuse that is waging War on Islam. & just whose side are you going to be on Tony, with the moslems I guess. Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 8:21:47 PM
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..and I think he's saying: When the proverbial hits the fan I wont know what happened
Is this what you're saying Jayb? Posted by grateful, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 8:22:34 PM
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Jayb: "Ch 2 v191. Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme."
Jayb, whoever is feeding you this stuff is playing you for a fool. I may not to have time to cover all the quotes (although i'll try) but you can look up the tafsir for all your verses from the link below. You'll see how critically important it is to defer to scholars for interpretation of the Qur'aan. ISIS and others have no scholars and do what you do: apply their own self-serving interpretation. The following are excerpts from the Tafsir, Interpretation, of one of the most eminent scholars of the 20 Century, Mufti Muhammad Shafi Usmani. These were originally broadcast in Urdu to a Pakistani radio audience in the 1960s (maybe 1970s). So they represent Islamic teachings. they come from Vol. 1 of Maariful Quran, pp482-485; (or PDF pages: pp498-501) which can be downloaded from http://www.maarifulquran.net/index.php/maarifulquran-english-pdf The translations of the verses are: "And fight in the way of Allah against those who fight you and do not transgress. Verily, Allah does not like the transgressors. And kill them wherever you find them and drive them out from where they drove you out, and Fitnah (to create disorder) is more severe than to kill. And do not fight them near Al-Masjid al-Harim unless they fight you there. However, if they fight you (there) you may kill them. Such is the reward of the disbelievers. (2:190-191) Excerpts from the commentary: "fighting against disbelievers was prohibited prior to the emigration to Madina is a fact the entire Muslim community agrees upon. All verses revealed during that time advised Muslims to be patient against pains inflicted on them by disbelievers, even to ignore and forgive when they can. It was after the emigration to Madina that the first command to fight against them came through this verse" continue.... Posted by grateful, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:59:13 PM
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" The command in this verse is that Muslims should fight only those disbelievers who come to fight against them. It means that there are other people too who do not take part in fighting, such as, the women, the children, the very old, the priests and monks and others devoting themselves to quiet religious pursuits, and the physically handicapped, and those casual labourers who work for disbelievers and do not go to fight along with them; it is not permissible to kill such people in a Jihad. The reason is that the command in the verse is restricted to fighting those who come to fight Muslims. " "The kind of people mentioned above are not all fighters. That is why Muslim Jurists , have also ruled that should a woman, an old man or religious person take part in actual fighting along with disbelievers or be helping them in any manner in their fight against the Muslims, then, killing them is permissible because they come under the purview of 'those who fight you." The battle orders of the Holy Prophet given to the mujahidin of Islam at the time of Jihad carry a good explanation of this injunction. A hadith from al-Bukhari and Muslim, as narrated by the blessed companion 'Abdullah ibn 'Umar, it is said: 'The Holy Prophet has prohibited the killing of women and children.' The following instructions from the Holy Prophet given to the companions going on Jihad have been narrated in a hadith from Anas which appears in Abu Daud: 'Go for Jihad in the name of Allah adhering to the community of the Messenger of Allah. Do not kill anyone old and weak, any young child or any woman.' When Sayyidna Abu Bakr al-Saddiq sent Yazid ibn Sufiyan to Syria he gave him the same instructions. Also added there is the prohibition of killing the religiously-devoted, the monks and priests, and the labourers employed by disbelievers, especially when they do not take part in fighting… Continue… Posted by grateful, Thursday, 15 December 2016 1:52:26 PM
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Because you make up stories with a view to promoting hatred and violence.
By the Shariah: A Muslim that arrives in any country accepts the protection of the country and in so doing must abide by its rules. Secondly, an army cannot be formed by an individual. An army requires the existence of a government and state. There is only one army the Shariah would recognise in Australia and that is the Australian army.
Jayb:"When the Ship hits the Sand, I should imagine you will be one of the first not to know. ;-)"
I'm not into country music but whatever you mean by this it sounds like you are planning a terrorist act.