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A primer on Islam and Islamism : Comments

By Babette Francis, published 30/11/2016

It is not only a religion but a totalitarian political ideology which encompasses every detail of life including how one washes oneself.

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Islam is a religion... it is also a very demanding way of life. It covers all aspects of life; social political, religious.

It is a way of life that is vague and misinterpreted even by its adherents. It is contradictory. There is no set order within it as there is in many other religions, and almost anyone can set themselves up as a teacher or authority figure.

It is divided into sects that are continually at war with each other and at times, the rest of the world. It requires individuals to submit to its tenets, it does not allow dissent or individuals to leave under penalty of death. Its ultimate goal is to create an Islamic world.
Posted by T800, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:43:23 AM
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" Its ultimate goal is to create an Islamic world."

and don't you lot out there forget it.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 1:04:38 PM
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David: Quote Its ultimate goal is to create an Islamic world."

and don't you lot out there forget it."

Not true

I know ISIS and al-Qaeda would disagree, as would neo-cons and an eminent historians such as Huntington and the intellectual father of the Second Iraq War, Bernard Lewis, there is no desire to "conquer the world". Historically Islam was spread through peaceful means and by conquering the heart through reason and good conduct.

Even when Muslim armies invaded lands it took centuries before the majority of the population were Muslim (Richard Bulliet, Conversion to Islam in the Middievil Period).

You will have noticed that governance of Muslims in the MENA region over the last 80 years has been been through military dictatorship or absolute monarchy (in the majority of cases sponsored by the West). Historically, when leadership has been tyrannical the people have turned to their Muslim scholars for justice.

The dynamics are explained by Richard Bulliet in 'Understanding Muslim Countries' and "Religion and the State in Islam: From Medieval Caliphate to the Muslim Brotherhood ".

He has examined the Islamic court documents from the Ottoman period and concludes that justice was dispensed fairly, between rich and poor, Muslim and non-Muslim, man and women. He concludes the people have had good reason to place their trust in Islamic scholars for protection against the injustices of their rulers.

Bulliet was one of the few historians to predict the Arabic Spring suggesting he has a better grasp of the dynamics of the region than the aforementioned historians.
Posted by grateful, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 6:06:02 PM
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grateful: there is no desire to "conquer the world". Historically Islam was spread through peaceful means and by conquering the heart through reason and good conduct.

Ha, ha, ha, hawwww, ha, ha!, & if you don't convert or you are an atheist, queer & a million other reasons we'll kill you. Ha, ha, haaaaa! Peaceful? Yes, we see that all the time in Europe & the UK. Did you see the latest at the lakemba mosque. The call for a moslems Army in Australia to force Sharia law on Australians. Did I see you there with poirot, Arjay, rache, csteel etc, calling for a jihadi Army ot rise up & attack Australians until they accept Sharia Law as the only Law. Peaceful? pull the other leg it plays Jingle Bells.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 7:12:36 PM
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Oh Greatful you pontificate about history and think we do not see you
changing it as you go.
Islam was spread by the sword at the command of Allah and Mohammed.
Why do you think the DNA of Syrian women shows that the microdendrial
DNA is Assyrian and the male DNA is Arab ?

The DNA holds the truth.

Why did the Ottomans try to conquer Europe and were defeated at the gates of Vienna ?
Why do you think the Hungarians don't want a bar of the current invasion flow ?

Been there done that! comes to mind.
Either admit the truth of the command to take Rome or go away.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:10:36 PM
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Bazz and Jay
if what you say has any truth then I'm sure there will someone to refute what I've said in a scholarly and civilisation manner.
Cheers bros
Posted by grateful, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:48:22 PM
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