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A primer on Islam and Islamism : Comments

By Babette Francis, published 30/11/2016

It is not only a religion but a totalitarian political ideology which encompasses every detail of life including how one washes oneself.

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Runner: <<I don't think it takes to many brains to think of whether you would like your young daughter to run into a group of Jesus followers or a group of Mohammed followers while out at night. Just ask the Germans. One group you might hate because they remind you of your sin but the other group is likely to see you as meat.>>

Runner you say "other group is likely to see you as meat" about Muslims who practice their religion. It's not true. Nor can it be true that you, by any stretch of the imagination is a follower of Jesus.

From today's news, more arrests:

<<Coffs Harbour men Trent Collins, 24, and Nigel McKee, 31, have subsequently been charged with using a carriage service to procure someone under 16 for sexual activity and using a carriage service to send indecent material to a person under 16.>> http://www.theage.com.au/nsw/coffs-coast-pedo-hunter-poses-as-girl-on-dating-sites-to-confront-paedophiles-20161207-gt5o98.html

Again the names tell a story from what you are spinning. And we will not find you posting on such mundane everyday events…unless they happened to have Muslim names. Am I not correct?

The message? If you’re expecting a Christian like Runner (as opposed to a follower of Jesus) to be there for your child in the event of an attack/abuse make sure your abuser/attacker has a Muslim name.
Posted by grateful, Saturday, 10 December 2016 9:29:03 AM
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' <<Coffs Harbour men Trent Collins, 24, and Nigel McKee, 31, have subsequently been charged with using a carriage service to procure someone under 16 for sexual activity and using a carriage service to send indecent material to a person under 16.>> '

great to hear of the arrests grateful. In Iran or Saudi Arabia under Sharia it would be the victim of the rape being charged.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 10 December 2016 9:34:05 AM
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Grateful: I fully understand the aversion of people in the West towards religion having to experience people of your ilk.

You & your moslem brotherhood don’t seem to understand what it is about Islam that people in the West find offensive. I hear all the time, especially in the UK & Europe, what moslems find offensive about Western Culture. That opinion is allowed to be voiced. If people in the West express their opinion on Islamic Culture we are accused of being Racist. Why is one different to the other?

You didn’t get back to me when I provided you with the proof of your accusation that I had no proof of Muhammad being a Camel Train Thief. Why is that? In fact you never answer directly but only with a deflection. Why is that?

You know I’m right & can’t admit it, can you?

grateful: Coffs Harbour men Trent Collins, 24, and Nigel McKee, 31,

Fair enough. But, these are the exception to the Rule unlike Islam where it almost mandatory &, it's allowed because Muhammad did it & Muhammad is the authority in this matter. Isn't he?

runner: great to hear of the arrests grateful. In Iran or Saudi Arabia under Sharia it would be the victim of the rape being charged.

Yes, Why is that grateful? One of the great tenants of Sharia Law. A Law that must be forbidden to be practiced in Australia even by moslems.
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 10 December 2016 10:13:02 AM
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Runner: <<great to hear of the arrests grateful. In Iran or Saudi Arabia under Sharia it would be the victim of the rape being charged>>
And indeed such flagrant and disturbing instances of discrimination and oppression would offend against the Shariah as much as Australian law.

From their behaviour, I don't see Runner or Pilgrim as followers of Jesus because they come with a message of hate and intolerance whereas Jesus and Muhammad came with a message of peace and love for one's neighbour:

"Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One. And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.' this is the first commandment. And the second, like it, is this: 'You shall love your neighbour as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these. " (Mark, 12: 29-31)

"Say: He is God, the One! God the self-Sufficient Besought of all!" (Qur'an, Al-Ikhlas 112: 1-2)

"So invoke the Name of thy Lord and devote thyself to Him with complete devotion" (Qur'an, Al-Muzzammil, 73:8)

The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said: "None of you has faith until you love for your neighbour what you love for yourself"

No-one can rationally claim Runner and Pilgrim are following Jesus in their remarks and the views that they propagate.
Posted by grateful, Saturday, 10 December 2016 2:22:36 PM
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grateful: Muhammad came with a message of peace and love for one's neighbour

But only if you are a moslems, otherwise kill them. Eh.

Do you want me to repeat all the Koranic Quotes demanding that again? There is a whole page or more full of them.
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 10 December 2016 4:25:41 PM
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funny how you quote the bible and Jesus grateful. Every muslim I have met has told me the bible is totally corrupted and here you are quoting it as an authority. If it ain't the Jesus who died on the cross for your sins grateful then its a made up Jesus. To bad that the muslims I speak to say it wasn't Jesus but Judas. Seems you are as selective and deceitful about which bible verses you claim have authority and which barbaric koran passages you deny.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 10 December 2016 4:56:46 PM
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