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New fascism reflected in Charlie Hebdo Paris shootings : Comments

By Mal Fletcher, published 8/1/2015

We must stare down this new form of fascism with the same clear thinking and bold resolve our forebears demonstrated in their battles with twentieth century varieties.

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For goodness sake they prayed like moslems, they spoke like moslems
and they murdered like moslems THEY ARE MOSLEMS !

So why do people pretend that they are not moslems, are they from
the Church of England in Midsummer Sunnyfield ?

No people seem to believe they are moslems, I wonder why ?
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 11 January 2015 10:07:34 PM
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'The Government and Opposition are both obviously clueless.' Yes Bazz about as clueless as they that pretend all belief systems are equal. The moral relativism dogma of secularist is clearly displayed for the stupidity it is and they know it.
Posted by runner, Sunday, 11 January 2015 10:11:35 PM
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Dear runner,

It is usually at this moment that I quote parts of Mien Kampf to you so here they are.

“To-day it is hard and almost impossible for me to say when the word 'Jew' first began to raise any particular thought in my mind. I do not remember even having heard the word at home during my father's lifetime. If this name were mentioned in a derogatory sense I think the old gentleman would just have considered those who used it in this way as being uneducated reactionaries.”

“There were very few Jews in Linz. In the course of centuries the Jews who lived there had become Europeanized in external appearance and were so much like other human beings that I even looked upon them as Germans. The reason why I did not then perceive the absurdity of such an illusion was that the only external mark which I recognized as distinguishing them from us was the practice of their strange religion. As I thought that they were persecuted on account of their Faith my aversion to hearing remarks against them grew almost into a feeling of abhorrence. I did not in the least suspect that there could be such a thing as a systematic anti-Semitism.”

“Then I came to Vienna.”

“In the Jew I still saw only a man who was of a different religion, and therefore, on grounds of human tolerance, I was against the idea that he should be attacked because he had a different faith. And so I considered that the tone adopted by the anti-Semitic Press in Vienna was unworthy of the cultural traditions of a great people.”

“I now often turned to the VOLKSBLATT, which was much smaller in size but which treated such subjects more decently. I was not in accord with its sharp anti-Semitic tone; but again and again I found that its arguments gave me grounds for serious thought.”

Cont..
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 12 January 2015 12:14:13 AM
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Cont..

“Anyhow, it was as a result of such reading that I came to know the man and the movement which then determined the fate of Vienna. These were Dr. Karl Lueger and the Christian Socialist Movement. At the time I came to Vienna I felt opposed to both. I looked on the man and the movement as 'reactionary'.”

“But even an elementary sense of justice enforced me to change my opinion when I had the opportunity of knowing the man and his work, and slowly that opinion grew into outspoken admiration when I had better grounds for forming a judgment. To-day, as well as then, I hold Dr. Karl Lueger as the most eminent type of German Burgermeister. How many prejudices were thrown over through such a change in my attitude towards the Christian-Socialist Movement!”

“My ideas about anti-Semitism changed also in the course of time, but that was the change which I found most difficult. It cost me a greater internal conflict with myself, and it was only after a struggle between reason and sentiment that victory began to be decided in favour of the former. Two years later sentiment rallied to the side of reasons and became a faithful guardian and counsellor.”

So who was this Dr. Karl Lueger, the man who drove Hitler against his better nature to strident and tragic anti-Semitism? He was a founding member of the Austrian Christian Democrats and “a zealous Catholic, and wished to “capture the university” for the Church. He would have neither Social Democrats nor Pan-Germans nor Jews in the municipal administration.”

Or more simply, he was a Christian.

I am comfortable with this sentiment of Christopher Hitchens;

“If you’re writing about the history of the 1930s and the rise of totalitarianism, you can take out the word ‘fascist’, if you want, for Italy, Portugal, Spain, Czechoslovakia and Austria and replace it with ‘extreme-right Catholic party’.”

So my dear runner we need to guard against all hate mongers be they Jewish, Islamic or Christian. You are one of them.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 12 January 2015 12:15:18 AM
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Jay and Joe

Yes, guys.

We know that you are compelled to keep writing post after post after post about how Islam is an inherently violent and dangerous religion and that stupid leftists keep stupidly apologising for Islam’s violence and dangerousness (by stupidly harping on about the West's totally irrelevant habit of bombing and regime-changing so many Muslim countries) and keep stupidly wanting to bring lots and lots and lots of violent and dangerous Muslim migrants into Western countries, so that they can keep violently and dangerously murdering us all to appease their inherently violent and dangerous Islamic lusts.

Yeah … we get it. Now could you possibly talk about something else for a change? What are your thoughts on quilting?

bazz

'I hope [we] will in time
start to wind back this Islamic problem'

That's what the British kept saying for centuries about 'the Irish problem'. They tried absolutely everything – starving them, hanging them, shooting them, banning their language, criminalising their religion, evicting them, transporting them. But nothing worked.

The poor Brits just didn’t understand that the ‘Irish problem’ was … duh! … the British!! Once the Brits finally got the message and got the hell out of Ireland (well, four-fifths of it) – presto … the Irish problem went away (well, four-fifths of it).

What a shame the West is still a long, loooong way from waking up to the same problem. Stay out of Muslim countries (especially stop bombing and regime-changing them) and they'll stay out of ours.
Posted by Killarney, Monday, 12 January 2015 12:22:25 AM
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Poirot

'Would you put Salman Rushdie in the category of unnecessarily provocative - and deserving of the fatwa?

Ah, come on, Poirot. You know my posting history better than that. Of course I don't. It's more Jay's distorted interpretation of my previous posts that makes it sound like I was saying the Hebdo cartoonists 'got what was coming to them'.

I was talking about the appropriateness of canonising the Hebdo cartoonists as martyrs for freedom of speech - a stance which, courtesy of the Western MSM propaganda machine, has gone completely viral.
Posted by Killarney, Monday, 12 January 2015 12:32:24 AM
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