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New fascism reflected in Charlie Hebdo Paris shootings : Comments

By Mal Fletcher, published 8/1/2015

We must stare down this new form of fascism with the same clear thinking and bold resolve our forebears demonstrated in their battles with twentieth century varieties.

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JoM,

Just as an aside, I noted a tweet yesterday which went like this:

"In the 3 days since 12 people were killed in France - more than 260 people died of gunshot wounds in the US.

They have their own particular challenges, it seems.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 12 January 2015 5:25:25 PM
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Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 12 January 2015 5:46:48 PM
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Loudmouth,

I've been advised by someone whom I respect not to bite back and to ignore posters on this forum who are disrespectful to me.

Posted by Poirot, Monday, 12 January 2015 5:50:49 PM
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Poirot,
260 seems high even for the U.S over a three day period in winter, according to this site about 65 people died from gunshot injuries in the past three days with a total of 370 for this month so far:
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
We've been down this road a million times, the U.S doesn't have a gun problem, Black people have a gun problem:
Gun deaths shaped by race in America:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/feature/wp/2013/03/22/gun-deaths-shaped-by-race-in-america/
93% of Black homicide victims are killed by other blacks, 55% of all homicide victims in the U.S.A are Black, 14% of White homicide victims are killed by Blacks so they kill Whites at twice the rate that Whites kill them.
If you compare like for like, 90% White communities in Australia and the U.S.A the homicide rate is in the 1.5-2.3 per 100,000 range for both and overall many more people die from suicide in the U.S than from homicide.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 12 January 2015 7:54:47 PM
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Jay of Melbourne,

If you're going to make an attack on anybody on this site, please base it on facts - and your last one (on me) was verging on criminal.

The Sovereign Citizen Movement (in the U.S) - is violent in many ways. The problem is for yourself, I believe is that you don't want to accept all forms of terrorism (left or right) and not accept that terrorism comes from various groups and individuals. Linking other reports to political correctness is simply a "denial" of this point.

Sovereign Citizens believe that he or she is above all laws. It can be difficult to assess each person as some of these people are based in informal groups or as individuals or have links with others. Sovereign Citizens in general involve:

"Non-violent retaliation against government employees and law enforcement is the most common response (by Sovereign Citizens), and can take the form of filing false liens, filing bogus Forms 1099, sending threatening correspondence, suing government employees for millions of dollars, and cyber-stalking individuals in government who disagree with the sovereign’s legal theories."

"Some sovereigns plot (however) a violent revenge, hoping to inspire others in the movement to reach their breaking point sooner (this has happened) - and for example, after twenty years of attempting to persuade the IRS and the Tax Court that his blender salad of legal theories was accurate, in 2010, private pilot Joseph Stack flew his airplane into an IRS building in Austin Texas, killing one tax collector, and injuring thirteen others."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jjmacnab/2012/02/13/what-is-a-sovereign-citizen/

Other such planned events have included bombings, shootings, murders, and armed standoffs. Visit:

http://www.deathandtaxes.com/?p=13 - and yes some of the people pictured (are Sovereign Citizens) or involved in right wing behavior and all photographed virtually look like terrorists.

There is also an image of the building after the damage from the terrorist attack on that site. This image reminded me of the September 11 attacks.

So Jay, you may wish to send a letter of apology to the family who lost a family member - and others injured - in that incident.
Posted by NathanJ, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 9:56:15 AM
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Craig Minns,

"or the snidely insinuative 'Is Mise' ...."

Argumentum ad hominem is the last resort of a vacant mind.

Care to give a reference to your assertion?
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 5:28:24 PM
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