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Vigilante justice: feminism's latest attack on human rights : Comments

By Adam Blanch, published 22/8/2014

Mr Clark has initiated laws that will allow those who have obtained an apprehended violence order against another person to 'name and shame' that person in the press.

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As I read this article, it seems there is no intention to name and shame anybody who has an AVO taken out against them.

Only if they breach it.

Get a grip.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 25 August 2014 8:13:48 AM
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Phanto, and a few others!
Blaming the victim again!?
It's all her fault, she should have chosen someone not given to violence!
Wow, first you want to transfer all the blame to her, she was too pretty, too seductive, too easy; etc/etc, ad nuseum; then you want her to be a, she should have known, mind reader as well!?
Get real, a real man would have stood up for her, not joined the queue throwing the allegorical stones!
Real men don't beat up on their wives! EVER! No ifs, buts or maybes!
Sometimes it takes more courage to walk away from a fight, than to have one!
And if you can't do that, buy a punching bag and take it all out on that! And if you can't do that; walk away, understanding, that its over!
Better that than to become a recidivist, incorrigible, excuse making bar steward, who's first and only response is violence!
Women and children are just not punching bags; [or sand bags,] and violence only ever begets more violence; and or, permanently damaged kids growing up in a poisonous, terrifying environment, where they think that this HORSE MANURE is normal!
And then we wonder why there's bullying at schools!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 25 August 2014 9:54:13 AM
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Rhosty:
Of course women are to blame for the partners they choose. Are they being forced into relationships? As far as I can see they all have freedom of choice and if they do not then they have bigger problems than domestic violence to worry about. Women choose their relationships – what happens after that is a separate issue altogether. No one is suggesting men are not to blame for their own violence and putting the issues together is simply a way of trying to emotionally manipulate the discussion. This a form of aggression.

If I was considering a relationship with someone it is exactly that type of aggression I would be very wary about. You do not have to be a mind reader to know that someone who manipulates, resorts to sarcasm, shouts, swears, belittles, tries to induce guilt where none is appropriate and patronises people is someone with a desire to hurt other people. These are all evident in just the above post. Violence is only one way to destroy people
Posted by phanto, Monday, 25 August 2014 10:58:16 AM
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Thanks Phanto,

I've been sceptical about the very notion of misogynism - how could men not like women ? - but you've demonstrated that it is possible, and perhaps more pervasive than I thought.

Do you have a photo ? If I ever go into a front-bar, I'll be careful to give you a wide berth.

To repeat, Clark's initiative is not to name and shame people on ACOs, but those scumbags (I think that's the technical term?) who breach AVOs.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 25 August 2014 11:35:33 AM
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Loudmouth:
Who said I was a man? Or are you too intent on insulting me to consider anything else? That need to hurt others in order to try and feel good about yourself is the very thing that soon translates into violence. I would steer clear of you in a bar too. I may only be misogynist but you are highly likely to be violent.
Posted by phanto, Monday, 25 August 2014 12:19:03 PM
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Joe from the quote in the article "of any offender who has been charged with (emphasis added) or convicted of contravening the notice or order and the identity of the adult victim". Its not a proven breach but being charged with a breach. In other aras of law I'd have quite a bit more confidence in the link between guilt and charges whilst still holding to a general preference for an assumption of innocence unless proven guilty. Not so much around anything in the family law arena.

My impression is of multiple layers of procedural weakness in the granting of and enforcement of AVO's combined with what is some times a significant vested interest in the outcome for those able to manipulate the system effectively that has little to do with personal safety.

Its a messy area, there are thugs around who those unfortunate enough to have formed relationships with in the past need protection from but I do think that perception is overplayed as a tactic by some to help political aims.

We should be very cautious in my view of any government initiates which weaken the protections that so much of our legal system is built on to the advantage of people who may have a lot to gain by manipulating the system without significant safeguards being put in place to prevent that manipulation.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Monday, 25 August 2014 12:36:48 PM
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