Dear Imajulianutter,

<<I am quite justified in calling him a liar.>>

That would be a personal attack, which is against the forum rules. It would also be off-topic and not contribute anything to the discussion.

If saying 'liar' to LEGO was necessary in order to save your life or your family, then I would justify this unsaintly behaviour - but I fail to see how that could be the case. Instead, you could simply state "No, I do not support the violence of Hamas" and leave it at that.

<<The justification you have used to condone ethnic cleansing was the same justification the Nazis used in Europe.>>

Fantastic! So the Nazis in Germany conducted their ethnic cleansing in order to save my family in Israel? I suppose I should thank them then, shouldn't I?

Also, embedded in that statement is an assumption as if I condone ethnic cleansing, which I don't and which I never said: what I said that if what it takes to save my family is X, then I support X. If X is "to mow my lawn" then I support mowing my lawn, if X is "to scratch my bum" then I support scratching my bum and if X is "to ethnically cleanse the tribe which attacks my family", then I support ethnically cleansing of that particular tribe at this particular time. Obviously, once the threat to my family is over, I no longer support that ethnic cleansing.

<<Now what about vengeance?>>

It's normally a bad and stupid thing to have. Why do you ask?

<<Do you realize even vdub baulks at endorsing ethnic cleansing.>>

Do you believe in ghosts who write in this forum? for there is nobody here answering to the name 'vdub'.

Yuyutsu: That would be a personal attack, which is against the forum rules. It would also be off-topic and not contribute anything to the discussion.

Yes, you have to watch Graham with that. Any attack on Moslems, Greenies, the Politically Correct & Ultra Lefties is seen as "bad." Of course, any attack on the Right, Middle, Anti PC, etc, is fair game. Apparently that the Game. Not that I'm suggesting that Graham is biased at all. I'd never do that.

Personally I'm for a bit of Religious Cleansing Starting with some Middle Eastern Religion & some really Spacey ones, then on to some strange Religious Brotherhoods.

Back to the Subject. I see Iran has said that it will rearm Hamas with some really good Missiles & Rockets. I can't see the blockade being lifted for very long. I guess the Israeli's have said, "we'll give them enough rope to hang themselves with." & They will.

Dear Jayb,

<<Personally I'm for a bit of Religious Cleansing>>

I wonder how you are going to achieve this: are you going to use drones to spy the windows looking for gentle old ladies to slaughter who secretly pray to Allah for peace? or are you going to pardon those pretenders whom you find illicitly raiding the fridge on Ramadan because they are not truly religious/Muslim at heart?

The problem is that unless God tells you, you have no idea who is religious and who isn't - but suppose you could have your way, then you would be killing many innocents while leaving behind the real baddies.

You.

You really are trying to defy logic.

You say you don't condone ethnic cleansing but you do condone ethnic cleansing as a consequence in defending your family.

Mate that is exactly what the Nazis said ... and did.

It is exactly what the Israelis said ... and did.

You support what both Israel and the Nazis have said ... and done.

That mate is an example of logic.

You

I didn't just say I condemn the violence of Hamasaki.

I said I condemn all violence and vengeance... from both sides.

Is that too difficult for you to grasp ... too?

You avoid the issue of vengeance. Too difficult for you too yu?

Dear Imajulianutter,

<<Mate that is exactly what the Nazis said ... and did.>>

Fantastic again! Are you saying that the Nazis condoned ethnic cleansing as a consequence in defending my family?

<<It is exactly what the Israelis said ... and did.>>

Israel is an extremely pluralistic society, so no two Israelis say... or do... the same. Nevertheless, in practice their army does protect my family from slaughter, many times over, so I need to be thankful to them. On the other hand I do not recall Nazis ever defending my family, ever.

<<I said I condemn all violence and vengeance... from both sides.>>

True, and I responded that condemnation is cheap.

<<You avoid the issue of vengeance.>>

I wasn't aware that there was any such issue or controversy. I am not a mind-reader, so please tell me what IS the issue about ven
geance and why have your brought it up?