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Hamas evil must be confronted and defeated in Gaza : Comments

By David Singer, published 13/8/2014

One month of fierce fighting between Israel and Hamas has resulted in an enormous propaganda victory for Hamas as horrific pictures have appeared daily in social media and newspapers around the world.

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Nuts: I laugh at you.

You are supposed to put "Ha!" behind that. You have to quote properly.

I.e. "I laugh at you..., Ha!" (puny individual)
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 1 September 2014 7:41:25 PM
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Loudmouth wrote "Should Jews exist ? Should Israel exist ? A one-word answer will suffice."

Does anyone notice that these two questions and one sentence make an unholy trinity which is at the core of the lie of Zionism?

OK I'll answer Loudmouth's questions - but it takes two words: Yes. No.

A simple as that.

Because I don't do simple very well I'll elaborate to make the answer even clearer: Jews should exist as equals in their own homelands like the rest of us. There are literally dozens of countries that are homelands in Europe, the British Isles, the Americas, Oceania, for Jews living alongside the rest of us as equals not as ethnic overlords. Australia is mine. Israel is a cobbled together "country" for those Jews who are persuaded that God chose them as overlords - and who have whined for seven decades and still counting that those their spooky "God" chose to be submen just won't accept the overlords. They keep firing rockets at then. Evil! Evil!

Those who do the persuading are inexorably losing their power to persuade the rest of us. How many megadeaths will we accept in a nuclear war to back their play? How many politicians who would be led into commitment to such a war would we accept in parliament? My own answer is none, and not even one scratched finger. Or one dollar. Anyone care to raise it?
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 1 September 2014 9:16:12 PM
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Hi Julian,

So ...... five million people are supposed to pack up and disperse to God knows where ? And what, move back into their homes in Poland and Hungary which have now been occupied by others for decades ?

Good luck with that.

Now BTT: when Hamas throws in its lot with Islamic State, whose side will you be on ?

Get stuck in :)

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 1 September 2014 10:38:00 PM
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Loudmouth: So their arrogant grab of other people's territory has backed the overlords into a corner, hasn't it?

Not five million by the way. Half of those five million individual people were born in Palestine and have every right to remain there, along with the other Palestinians including the current four million or so exiles. AS EQUALS, not as overlords.

The civilised world contains about 700 million inhabitants. Three million Jewish immigrants to come and re-integrate themselves with society. AS EQUALS, much as that sticks in the Zionist racists’ craw. Not insuperable and not as nearly costly as ending up a global pile of ash as a world war would mean. If they accepted life as individual equals they would be a much more welcome source of immigration than the Moslems who are flooding in now, setting up hostile enclaves.

Hamas linking up with IS is a hypothetical being seized on by some as a bogeyman to blackmail the world into accepting global war if necessary (e.g. starting with aggression against Iran as demanded by Israel) to rescue the Zionist project. Where I personally stand is very small beer, but it is essentially with anybody who seeks the ideological elimination of Islam and the physical elimination of its warriors wherever they go ape in search of conquest for their cult. That is a duty not to "God-chosen" overlords but to fellow-human beings and the ongoing Enlightenment on which our civilisation rests. Loudmouth's hypothetical is a red herring to duck answering the racist question of rescuing Israel's overlordship over the submen
Posted by EmperorJulian, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 1:10:14 PM
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EJ could you point me to ANY Islamic majority Country where ANY unbelievers are treated as FULL equals.

That is, to follow their own Religion, unfettered by Jizyah Taxes & other restrictions, such as on dress, driving, alcohol, etc. The right not to be harassed by the different factions of islam. I don't care what they do to each other, just not to be violent or harass, say Jews, Christians or Hindus, Yardi's etc. Equal Schooling of their choice provided by the Government, equal employment opportunities in Government & other positions of Management, equal rights to be an elected member of the Government.

No, why is that? Anyone?

When it comes to Zionists, One World Order, Rosicrucians, Masons, Buffalos, Jaycees, Lions, Rotary, the USA, Russians or Chinese, any of these would be a mile in front of having the World under a Caliphate. Or is that a "Call it Hate." Wouldn't you agree?
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 2:20:28 PM
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Dear Julian,

AS EQUALS - that would be fabulous!

But of course it's a dream, it cannot happen, it's all hypothetical. Once Pinocchio plants his money in the ground and a tree of coins grows thereof, then and only then would I believe that the Arabs of the Middle-East will allow non-Muslims to live there as equals - alas, they are not even willing to treat each other as equals, how more so the infidels!

Let the cat guard your own cream: My family (who were born in Israel and that same place before Israel was established) might still be called all manner of derogatory things - but the small difference is that they are alive and well and will remain so, protected by the Israeli army, while your cream will all be eaten away by your overlording cat who wouldn't even share it equally with you.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 2:26:55 PM
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