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Hamas evil must be confronted and defeated in Gaza : Comments

By David Singer, published 13/8/2014

One month of fierce fighting between Israel and Hamas has resulted in an enormous propaganda victory for Hamas as horrific pictures have appeared daily in social media and newspapers around the world.

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Now that we’ve dealt with your feigned grievances, let’s continue disproving your other points.

“You see you want peace on Israel's terms, one that would never see an independent Palestinian state, one forever without the means to defend itself…”

Please point to any of my posts where I stated the above. Failing that, try to stick to what I say, not what you imagined I said. The one thing I strongly support is the removal of terror arsenal from Gaza. Terror weapons, by definition, are NOT used for defence. They are used to terrorise people. You should look this up before making false claims about what I want.

You keep harping on that ridiculous assertion that terrorism carried out by Hamas criminals somehow has a positive effect on Israeli/Palestinian relations. Do you really believe that the ‘heroic’ terrorism from Gaza keeps Israel at the negotiating table? Are you really that ignorant or naïve to believe such illogical rubbish? And how are terror attacks on Israeli cities far from Gaza related to stopping settlements within Gaza? The mind boggles.

“…why then is it somehow only illegitimate when Hamas does the same”

Because, as I already stated many times, only to be ignored by your misguided righteousness, they are NOT doing the same. You keep overlooking one crucial difference: Hamas criminals deliberately and exclusively target the homes of civilians who have nothing to do with the conflict. No IDF bases are targeted by any Qassam rockets. Israel, on the other hand, only targets terrorist leaders’ residences, as well as terror weapons which are often held by Hamas in civilian neighbourhoods for human shielding. Israel makes repeated efforts to avoid harming others, any civilian deaths are accidental and regrettable. No Israeli has a public square named after him/her for killing Palestinian civilians, unlike many such examples on the Palestinian side. I understand why you need to keep ignoring this and I sympathise, because once you acknowledge these little facts your entire argument collapses in a heap of drivel and your immoral enthusiastic justification of terrorism is exposed in its full glory.

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Posted by Avw, Friday, 12 September 2014 9:33:41 AM
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“You tell me when there has been 'long periods' without attacks on Gaza…”

Periods without Israeli attacks on Gaza have certainly been far longer than period with no terror rockets launched by the Hamas illegal entity in Gaza. Once again (because you keep ignoring it) – keep in mind that there is a world of difference between deliberately targeting civilians and the accidental death of civilians while going after your much admired terror role-models.

“However there has been a long period, over 6 years in fact, since the last suicide bomber struck in Israel and there has only been a single bomb strategically placed anywhere in Israel over the same period”

This is certainly not for lack of trying by your favourite terror bandits. There have been countless attempts to carry out terror acts within Israel, most of which are foiled by the authorities, not unlike similar attempts in Europe, the US, Australia and other such localities where infidels reside. Unfortunately it is inevitable that one day, some horrific terror act will again succeed. You will then be able to claim your moment in the sun, justifying this despicable act and glorifying the sub-humans who carried it out as ‘heroic fighters’.

You say

“It is Israeli settler fanaticism that is the real cancer not only in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, but the entire world. The sooner we all realise the importance of removing this cancer from the world the better off we would all be”

Time and time again you choose to pick one of my sentences, swap some keywords around and convert it to your needs, due to, I guess, lack of other credible material to support your claims. You might consider this a clever strategy, but unfortunately for you, after this word-surgery this sentence no longer makes any sense. Can you explain how is “Israeli settler fanaticism” the “real cancer” in “the entire world”? How many Israeli settlements are there in Australia? How many are there in the US or Canada? Can any be found in Europe? Are Israelis building settlements in China, Russia or Japan?

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Posted by Avw, Friday, 12 September 2014 9:39:42 AM
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Come to think of it, are there any Israeli settlements anywhere else in the world? How is this “the real cancer…in…the entire world”, according to you? Let’s compare it with Islamic fanaticism: we are afflicted with it in abundance throughout the Middle East, in places like Gaza, the West Bank, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan. In Africa we now have Islamic fanatics controlling large areas of Nigeria and Somalia, routinely conducting terror acts in Libya and Tunisia, while others are making repeated attempts to seize power in Egypt. In the Americas we had your heroic freedom fighters involved in the 9/11 and countless other terror attempts, most of which have luckily been foiled. In Europe we have Islamic fanatics dismembering people in the streets of London. Plenty of other extremists are actively seeking to establish Sharia law in large parts of the continent, and bombings of public places have taken place in London and Spain. In Asia we have Islamic fanatics in Indonesia, Russia, the Philippines and they now start raising their ugly heads in Western China. Here in Australia we have no shortage of our own fanatics wishing to convert our society to a Sharia abiding nation, and we are about to increase our terror alert to High. Now that’s what I call a REAL cancer affecting the ENTIRE world.
I suppose the lesson for you is the need to be careful when ripping off someone else’s statement and attempting to convert it to your needs – it could blow up in your face.
Posted by Avw, Friday, 12 September 2014 9:45:09 AM
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Deal with it steelie.

http://news.yahoo.com/hamas-quietly-admits-fired-rockets-civilian-areas-212636053.html
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 13 September 2014 8:20:45 AM
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Keeping your head down steelie, now that the Terrorist alert has gone to "High."
Posted by Jayb, Sunday, 14 September 2014 1:42:32 PM
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