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Hamas evil must be confronted and defeated in Gaza : Comments

By David Singer, published 13/8/2014

One month of fierce fighting between Israel and Hamas has resulted in an enormous propaganda victory for Hamas as horrific pictures have appeared daily in social media and newspapers around the world.

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Better still imajulianutter!

How about all of those descended from the imperialist, Muslim invaders return to the Arabian peninsula from whence they came.
Posted by SPQR, Sunday, 24 August 2014 6:49:25 AM
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Most did. They left behind their religion and language. It lasted because it was required to be Muslim to engage in trade and the language of trade was Arabic.

Strewth why don't you accept history like us westerners. We know we can't change it so we learn from it.
You haven't and you try to continually rewrite it.
Posted by imajulianutter, Sunday, 24 August 2014 1:15:48 PM
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Nutter,

SOPQR has a point - in the name of Allah, Arabs invaded right across north Africa, down into Sudan, and right up to the current Turkish and Iranian borders. Pre-630 ACE, Arabs were more or less confined to the western Arabian Peninsula, unless you want to count all the Bedouin. Pre-630 ACE, the population of what is now Israel and Palestine would have been mostly Christian and Jewish.

Of course, that's all water under the bridge. That was then, this is now. What does the world do about a re-bursting of a reactionary ideology across that huge swathe of territory from Afghanistan to the Atlantic ? Find excuses for its fascist excesses ? After all, it's not American. Oh well, there's a role for the pseudo-Left 'usefuls'.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 24 August 2014 1:34:28 PM
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imajulianutter

<<Most did. They left behind their religion and language. It lasted because it was required to be Muslim to engage in trade and the language of trade was Arabic.>>

LOL Your knowledge of ancient history is as woeful as your knowledge of recent history!

And what's this mean: <<Strewth why don't you accept history like us westerners>>

Who is "you"?
Like your Hamas allies you assume anyone who doesn't swallow your half baked stories hook line and sinker must be a Jew or Zionist --I am neither.

But having recently crossed swords with the Hamas cheer squad I am much, much more appreciative of Israel wanting to keep a firm border between it and them
Posted by SPQR, Sunday, 24 August 2014 2:25:56 PM
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No sp

you are a Palestinian/Muslim/Arab Hater and you seek war hence are also a warmonger... and a liar.

Show me where I have allied myself with Hamas and it's violence? You can't you liar.

I hate all violence and it's perpetration.

Hi Joe

So the Arabs were imperialists just like the current set of Jews. Yep. I agree.

The trouble with your justification is the west no longer indulges in territorial imperialism. It is no longer part of our philosophy or practise.

You merely reinforce my position: the Jewish religion like Islam is welded to the past but it tries to equate Israeli practises by likening them to western practises. Sadly that argument fails because we have abandoned most of the dominating practises we once indulged. (Financial imperialism and domination are separate from territorial imperialism)

The propaganda is aimed at propagandising the belief, among westerners, Israel is behaving as the west behaves.

We don't behave like Israel.

We don't behave like Islamists either.
Islamists don't try to pretend they act like us and nor do they claim to be like us.

Islamists don't wear our clothes and their hearts are unveiled
Israelis might wear our clothes but their hearts are veiled.

Try reading the views of G. K. Chesterton and Winston Churchill, avoid the anti Semitics like Hitler and Stalin and all the other socialists. Not much has changed.

cheers Keith
Posted by imajulianutter, Sunday, 24 August 2014 6:25:51 PM
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Joe

we won't defeat the expansion of dark age religion by adopting the tactics of dark age religions.

it will be defeated by example and preference. It is the extremists who hand onto dark age beliefs.

There is little violence nor expansion of violence in the most populous Muslim nation on earth. It is not Arab. Nor is there any violence in the Muslim community that has existed in Australia for over 150 years. It is not Arab either.

Islam in most of the Mideast is not Arab either. Cultures such as Syrian, Iranian, Iraqi, Lebanese, Egyptian and Palestinian host Islam and the Arabic language.

The Israelis try to portray Islam as only Arabic and violent. Arab culture is extremely violent. The cultures of the populations of most Muslim countries are peaceful.

Now watch those who spew hare.
Posted by imajulianutter, Sunday, 24 August 2014 6:38:32 PM
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