Like Gandhi in a nappy I skip through this increasingly heated thread.

Israeli Daily butcher's bill for the cleansing of Gaza - 25 July Aus time. Today I am using ITIC data^ which actually makes Israel look slightly less murderous.^

Palestinians killed: 674*

Israeli and 1 Thai civilian killed: 3

Israeli soldiers killed: 32

* Using the findings of Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (ITIC)^ http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/Data/articles/Art_20684/E_125_14_309748161.pdf

ITIC estimates that of the 674 Palestinians killed:

- civilians: 241

- unknowns: 229

- militants: 204

^ ITIC has close ties to the Israel Defense Forces and the American Jewish Congress

LOOKIE, LOOKIE –from the same source Pete is quoting his causality figures above from (this may go a loooooooooooooooong way towards explaining why there are so many “civilian” deaths)

1) Patrick Martin, Gaza Strip correspondent for the Canadian Globe and Mail, wrote that "...the IDF informed the two groups that it had accepted a request from the Red Crescent for a two-hour humanitarian truce to allow medics to evacuate the dead and injured from Shejaia...as journalists arrived at the scene in Shejaia Sunday afternoon, several men with guns were scurrying from the scene. Some bore their weapons openly, slung over their shoulder, but two, disguised as women, were seen walking off with weapons partly concealed under their robes. Another had his weapon wrapped in a blanket and held on his chest as if it were a baby"

Well, well, well, who would have thought those Hamashies would be so dastardly devious...certainly Pete and his investigative journalist team weren't the wake up!

Dear Imajulianutter,

I do not support atrocities and hatred.

I care not for Palestinians/Jews/Turks/British/French and all other nationalistic nonsense and historical stuff. This may be the playground of David Singer, but I've got nothing to do with it.

All I know is that:
1) My family was born where it was and has no other home.
2) There is a group of people who do not accept their living there (perhaps unless they converted to Islam, perhaps unless all women in my family were to undergo FGM, perhaps not even then).
3) This group of people are doing everything they can to see my family dead, including digging tunnels in order to emerge out of them with weapons and slaughter my family.
4) Fortunately, the Israeli army has now discovered those tunnels and is blowing them up, providing a reprieve to my family for a few more years. Hopefully they will continue doing so, giving my family more reprieves for many years to come.

Yes, it's a pity that this same Israeli army is also associated with Judaism and Zionism, but at this point in time this is the least of my worries - I want my family safe and well and if in order to achieve that we need to ally with the Zionist state, then so be it - I rather bear the stench and plug my nose because they have better weapons and therefore better chances of survival than anyone else in the Middle-East, also because the other side stinks even more.

Those people who would not allow my family to live in Israel, wouldn't allow you and your family to live in Australia either - if they only could. As yet, they don't have the power to send rockets on Australia, but they would - and when they do, they wouldn't care what your views are, how your ancestors arrived here, whether you are a good guy or whether you like them or not. They would shoot you just as well so they can have room to spread their genetic seeds in this continent as well.

#plantaganet

Your ITIC statistical source reveals:

"...the EU Council issued a strong announcement condemning the indiscriminate rocket fire from the Gaza Strip into Israel. In an exceptional statement, the announcement stressed the need to disarm all the terrorist organizations in the Gaza Strip. It also stressed
Israel's right to defend itself. However, the ministers said they were "appalled" by the "human cost" of the operation in Shejaiya. It also called for a ceasefire and "the immediate, sustained and unconditional opening of crossings" (EU website, July 22, 2014)

Re those crossings ITIC reports:

"During the ground operation the IDF has left the crossings open and allowed for merchandise and humanitarian aid to enter the Gaza Strip. According to sources in the office of the Coordinator for Government Activities in the Territories, efforts are being made to distinguish between the civilian population and terrorist elements. That is being done despite the complex situation in which Hamas and other terrorist organization operatives blend into the civilian population and endanger them (Cogat.idf.il, July 22, 2014).

The Erez Crossing
During Operation Protective Edge more than 50 mortar shells have been fired at the Erez crossing (one Israeli civilian was killed). Nevertheless, the crossing continues operating, endangering the lives of the people working there. There has been a decrease in the number of Palestinians seeking medical care because they are afraid of the roadblocks erected by Hamas to prevent them from reaching the
crossing

The Kerem Shalom crossing has remained open throughout Operation Protective Edge,even since the beginning of the ground operation, despite its being one of the sites most threatened, especially by mortar shell fire from the Gaza Strip. On July 22, 2014, between 1000 and 1600 hours, the IDF declared it would be possible to deliver merchandise and humanitarian equipment to the Gaza Strip through the Kerem Shalom crossing. Since the beginning of Operation Protective Edge 778 trucks carrying food, medicine and medical equipment have entered the Gaza Strip through the crossing. Diesel fuel for the Gaza Strip power plant, gasoline and cooking gas have also been delivered"

Israel bashers please note.

But David

Are not all the ITIC Reports Israel Security Agency Shin Bet/Shabak disinformation?

For confirmation all should see http://www.shabak.gov.il/english/Pages/default.aspx .

Cheers

Pete

Yu
You show a total disregsrd for the foundation of western society and why it is so successful and relatively free from the instuitionslised intolerance of Jewish Israel ( which you show you and your family support) and the intolerance of the muslim extremists. Try to understand the subulties in this and you will see why the west loves secularism and democracy.

And are so unlike you mid eastern religious nutjobs.