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Palestine – Israel takes off the gloves : Comments

By David Singer, published 22/7/2014

Israel cannot possibly return to the situation that has prevailed since Israel's 2005 disengagement from Gaza that has seen 11000 rockets and missiles indiscriminately fired into Israeli civilian areas.

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Oh dear David Singer,

Back with the myopic blather of a fundamentalist again.

You claim; “Israel's decision to take the gloves off came after 1381 rockets had been indiscriminately fired from Gaza into Israeli population centres over a period of ten days”. Yet during that same period Israel had hit nearly twice as many targets within Gaza with terrible cost to civilian lives.

And now you are even posting Youtube links, hardly edifying stuff and they don't call it war porn for nothing. Careful of that keyboard my friend.

The first shows some Gazan resistance fighters coming ashore a couple of thousand meters from Gaza trying to flank the enemy amassed on its border. Oh you don't like that terminology? To you they are terrorist infiltrators but when IDF members kill scores of women and children what are we to call them? Is the IDF the only entity in this conflict given the right to invade?

So what proof do you have that these Gazans were terrorists? You don't. The IDF has been shown to be the least truthful of organisations time and time again. Has any of this been independently verified? No.

What you have served up to us for your pleasure and our viewing was the deaths of twenty odd human beings who were attempting to defend their people against a brutal invading force. You might get off on it but don't expect any civilised person to do the same.

Here is another brave individual, a young American Jew protesting Israel's actions.
http://youtu.be/Rf5zY3j_bnM

And here is another who is horrified at the death and destruction;

“Al Jazeera's Gaza correspondent Wael Al-Dahdouh walked off camera on Sunday while reporting on the dozens of people killed and thousands of Shijaiyah residents forced to flee their homes as Israeli aircraft continued to target the area.”
http://youtu.be/5crro8BaxLg

They put you to shame.

Of course Al Jazera will soon be kicked out. “All the large media networks operate in Israel. Many of them do not broadcast what may be termed Zionist propaganda” Many do.
http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/PressRoom/2014/Pages/FM-Liberman-meets-with-Rwandan-FM-Mushikiwabo-in-Jerusalem-21-July-2014.aspx
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 4:13:36 PM
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Zionists and anti-Zionists play football against each other - but the ball are the ordinary Israeli citizens, kicked around by both.

Israelis are attacked with rockets and attack-tunnels, so they must do what they do to protect their families. It's not an ideology - it's a necessity!

Even then, Jews like David Singer who are not personally under fire, use this tragedy as an opportunity to promote their expansionist ideas. At the same time, those who respond against him do so out of irrelevant global agendas, mainly driven by anti-American sentiments, which even if justified have nothing to do with the actual acute situation.

Neither cares for ordinary Israelis that come under fire.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 5:07:35 PM
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yutusu

I post out of horror. No other agenda.

heck out singer's agenda then judge our behaviours.
I wonder at your agenda. Is it appeasement?
Posted by imajulianutter, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 5:45:09 PM
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Dear Imajulianutter,

<<I wonder at your agenda. Is it appeasement?>>

My agenda is simple - that my family in Israel be safe.

I'm not interested in politics, I couldn't care less why Israel exists or whether it's right or wrong: the fact is that it's there in the midst of very hostile people, the fact is that my family lives there - and if Israel is not strong enough then my family would be in big trouble.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 6:23:20 PM
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Quote:
...unity against the killing if innocent children snd tbe training of children to hate and kill their neighbours...."

Isn't that exactly what virtually the entire Muslim world is doing to Israel?
It's OK for them to do that, but not the Israeli's?
Posted by G'dayBruce, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 8:46:04 PM
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Rhrosty

I've always thought you were one of the more reasonable of the OLO posters. I'm pretty shocked and disappointed at your comment here, but that's MY problem, I guess. (I even considered for a moment that your post was being ironic.)

All this human shields business is a propaganda furphy, to justify legitimised terror/psychological warfare against civilians. It was used by the Americans in Vietnam and by the British in Ireland and Malaya and virtually every other country they invaded and colonised. And where is the military arm of Hamas supposed to operate from in the most densely populated area on earth which has been rightly compared to an open-air prison?

Fighting back against a ruthless oppressor/occupier is human nature, even when the odds are stacked against you. If you eliminate Hamas, another force will take its place. You also seem unaware that Hamas also provides massive social and financial support to the people of Gaza, which is the reason the Gazan population democratically elected them. It was the Washington consensus that declared Hamas a terrorist organisation, not the Gazans.

I suggest you stick to posting about tax reform, and leave the Middle East to people who know what they're talking about.
Posted by Killarney, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 8:46:27 PM
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