Killarney,

Your posts indeed resort to ridicule and fantasy, but above all they contain absolutely no substance. You are unable to respond to any of the flaws I pointed out in your posts. You creatively compose various claims, with no shred of evidence, some of them are just blatantly incorrect. I have no idea how you can repeatedly claim that the National Socialists in Germany were not democratically elected. All history books that I've read agree that they won the largest number of votes in 1933 by a huge margin. This allowed them to eventually dissolve the Reichstag and move to a single-party system. Maybe those special history books that you read claim the opposite, I'm not sure. I suggest you look at the following links before embarrassing yourself any further:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_March_1933
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_election,_November_1933

You say that you "don't feel like making rational arguments"? Is that why all your arguments are irrational?

Plantagenet, the Israeli government is acting as a terrorist organisation so their participants should be treated with 'equivalence' to other terrorism participants.

David Singer, " indisputably and universally agreed as constituting war crimes" yep, Israel government, guilty

Dear Mr Singer,

Yes I suppose it is just language but let us attempt to put some logic behind it.

That logic would say those who are creating the most amount of terror and mayhem should rightly be afforded the title terrorists. The terror inflicted on the Palestinian people before and during this invasion is horrendous. Late night mass arrests, house demolitions, shootings, ransackings, beatings, deaths in the West Bank and wave after wave of missile, artillery shells, cannon fire into Gaza all designed as a collective punishment for an oppressed, mostly defenceless people.

So let us employ your language and tactics and examine those figures again.

On the terrorist's side;

32 terrorists, 2 civilians (though if they are on militarty age in Israel they would have been trained to kill Palestinians therefore one would have thought are legitimate targets) and 1 foreign worker killed; 150 terrorists and 28 civilians wounded; 1 terrorist missing.

On the side of those resisting occupation and oppression;

A Palestinian health official puts the casualties at 695 killed and 4,220 wounded. Those wounded will include hundreds if not thousands who are maimed for life suffering loss of limbs, loss of sight, gross disfigurement, permanent disabilities.

The Palestinian Centre for Human Rights puts the figure at 663 killed (541 civilian and 122 resistance fighters). The PCHR is an independent organisation in Gaza run by award winning lawyer, and human rights activist Raji Sourani, member of International Commission of Jurists and Vice President of the International Federation of Human Rights. Some of the organisations who fund the centre are International commision of Jurists, Sweden Chapter, Ford Foundation USA, NOVIB Holland, Christian Aid UK, Dan Church Aid Denmark, European Commission, and Ireland Aid.

The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) put the figures at 599 killed (443 civilians, 87 resistance fighters, 69 unknown).

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Even the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (ITIC) (also known as Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center in honor of Meir Amit), which is an Israeli-based independent research group with close ties to the Israel Defense Forces and the American Jewish Congress puts the figures at 610 killed (230 civilians, 172 resistance fighters, 208 unknown). Why did you not include these figures David? What were you hiding?

Not one other source even came close to the figures touted by the terrorist organisation the IDF which has claimed 300 resistance fighters killed and 28 arrested.

David, as an ardent supporter of the terrorism being inflicted on the peoples of Gaza why shouldn't the rest of us condemn you in the strongest of terms and ask that you be investigated by the Australian authorities? Terrorism in all its guises needs to be confronted.

See mate, language cuts both ways.

Now I need you to focus your legal mind and tell me why the Israeli excuses for the horrendous civilian death toll could not be used by the Russian separatists who shot down the Malaysian airliner. 'It is a time of war and if you measure the civilian toll including those aboard the jet against those of the nearly 600 of the Ukrainian army we have killed or captured then those figures would compare most favourably with the toll in Gaza. We will of course endevour to keep the civilian deaths to a minimum but some are unavoidable.'

Good God Steel we agree. And I cannot find fault with your methodology, in fact I admire it.

Well done, mate.