Jay I definately disagree with you on those last couple of posts. Whilst your family may have dealt with DV actively its pretty clear that a lot of families have not done so.

There are a whole bunch of reasons why that might be the case ranging from an acceptance of the particular form of violence, via blood is thicker than water through to powerless to act for some reason.

We do need resources from outside the family available to help, we do need the communities message to be clear regardless of family history and beliefs that violence and bullying are not OK.

My objection to the status quo is that its been played so successfully as a gender that men with a violent spouse don't get the support they need to either stop the violence or stop having the abuse play out in other ways if they leave.

The extremist position ensuredbthat when the Howard government ran its Australia Says No campaign there was no part of that campaign that spoke against females assaulting others, DV was portrayed 100% as men assaulting women. Other publicly funded advertising which has focussed on controlling behaviours (reviewing phone contents, controlling finances, controlling access to friends etc) has also been portrayed with the same gendered approach. The agenda has been controlled by those unwilling to give an inch.

That needs to end, not by shutting off support to those who need it and leaving it up to families to sort out. Rather by speaking against all violence. By doing what we can to stop it regardless of gender politics or historical beliefs about differences between men and women.

R0bert

Yes Jay, good plan, if one of the Rellies bashes their woman, the rest of the Rellies simply go around and bash the bloke! Very civilized...

I'm assuming the same would happen if the female Rellie bashed her man, what with equal rights and all that?

Good afternoon to you JAY OF MELBOURNE...

You may have noticed in an earlier thread of mine when I said - coppers absolutely detest attending matters of domestic violence ! I've carefully re-read your last thread, and from my understanding I acknowledge the complexities you and your extended family have confronted when attempting to resolve DV issues in-house (within the family) ?

From a coppers point of view, regardless who summons police attendance, invariably when they arrive, they're often informed they're not wanted ! The complainant may've called police, but the spouse may've threatened her/him for doing so, or alternatively begged forgiveness, so when the coppers ultimately turn-up they're quickly shunted away ?

Alternatively, if police choose to arrest the aggressor/protagonist, often the complainant will withdraw their accusation, and criticise police if they persevere with the arrest, or removal of the aggressor ? In other words, rarely can the coppers win JAY OF MELBOURNE.

What you've said concerning strategies that may be employed within the family unit, as evidenced by the skills possessed by your parents for successfully defusing or terminating matters of DV, is highly laudable and quite amazing I must confess. You mentioned, '...if I follow my training I could end up on a charge myself...' also resonated with me.

But our legislators do know better ? Consequently you were prevented from intervening with the situation that you've cited herein, because of the existence of an AVO, and had you done so, you could've been pinched yourself ! I'm sure you'd agree, this whole question of Domestic Violence, what causes it, and how to deal with it, is a real dogs breakfast ! I'll tell you something for nothing..., the answer to this mess, IS NOT TO BE FOUND WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE POLICE !

It's surely a social issue, that demands social strategies, and only the most intractable, violent aggressors, should come within the aegis of police.

"and only the most intractable, violent aggressors, should come within the aegis of police."

And how do you propose defining and categorising this group, exactly? Is one puffed black eye only half as bad as two black eyes? What about the 'silent violence' that remains just that; - silent?

I think this thread is somewhat drifting from the point the author was originally trying to make - that the feminist 'movement' is woefully morally corrupt, abjectly dishonest, completely self-serving and operates with a hidden agenda. Much like most politicians really - if not all.

CODY...

I should think you'd merely use your brains CODY, that's how it would come within the aegis of police !

o sung wu,

I suspect that DV committed by women against other women, children and the menfolk in their lives is akin to elder abuse, which traditionally is also under-reported.

To tale the comparison a little further and we need to do that, elder abuse like DV does not always evidence in unsightly bloodied faces. It takes many forms and the perpetrators know how to trip their way around detection, and how to divert the blame onto the victim. Elders are unlikely to report, out of embarrassment for instance.

Anyhow, while on elder abuse affecting men (and women) which is common,
http://www.theshedonline.org.au/health-lifestyle/caring-for-others/how-can-you-prevent-elder-abuse

Returning to feminism,
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/the-now-president-who-became-a-mens-rights-activist/372742/