A negative consequence of feminists' fallacious stereotype of 'male violence',

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ptuQfV4q0

Sleep well, Grrls.

Foxy that seemed to be a pretty good coverage of the issues around DV allegations. There are some parts touched on a little lightly or not at all around the different treatment of violence based on gender and the impact of the myth that female violence is "fighting back" against oppression.

For the record I'm not sure how to respond to Suzie's latest misrepresentation of my earlier post, I doubt her comprehension is that bad and assume it is a deliberate misrepresentation.

My history woke me up to the discrepancy between what was being sold as the DV story and what was happening and some of the consequences of that. Beyond that I've tried very hard to way the evidence based on it's merits, not on my own history or gender.

Suzie has been requested to present evidence supporting her beliefs and defend them against logical criticism, she declined and chooses instead to use disruptive tactics designed to divert from discussion of the evidence. Some honest participation in the debate and discussion of evidence on Suzies part would be welcome rather than the tactics currently being used.

R0bert

Dear RObert,

We may be reluctant to believe that discrimination
against individuals because of their sex, race, age,
sexual orientation or health status still exists.
We also may not want to accept the
fact that violence is as common as it is - and that
there are victims of batterings and other cruelties,
despite legislation prohibiting such violence,
common policing, workplace policies, counseling and
training programs that exist. Yet as you've pointed out
this is the reality for many people.

Unfortunately stereotypes occur when individuals are
classified by others as having something in common
because they are members of a particular group or
category of people. Gender stereotypes are a
psychological process which illustrates structured
set of beliefs about the personal attributes of men and
women. Stereotypes (male of female) refer to individuals
cognitions that typically do not correspond to reality.
A stereotype is a picture in the head not an accurate
mirror of the real world.

Until we work towards a better understanding of the
complexities of each form of victimisation - the
development of effective responses will take that much longer.

Foxy completely agree with that last post.

That's a significant part of what this thread is about.

R0bert

The 'blow-off' tactic is equally insulting: copying and pasting reams of general bumpf from some unacknowledged womens studies stuff of yonks ago, with the patronising assurance that stereotyping applies to everyone, so don't you be worrying your heads about that, dear 'boys'.

Stereotyping may well be everywhere, but this thread is concerned with the fallacious feminist stereotyping of 'male violence' that can result in a husband and father being killed by police in front of his loving wife and family. In a First World Western democracy! Who could look at the video linked to earlier without a tear? How in the hell did feminism ever come to that? Here again,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ptuQfV4q0

Dear RObert,

I'm glad that you understand the point that I was
trying to make. Yes we need to stop domestic
violence. We also need to stop the stereotyping.

The domestic violence system needs to treat
violent couples as violent couples instead of
shoehorning them into stereotypes.

Stereotyping
causes people to downplay or ignore domestic
violence in relation to people's behaviour.
These sort of attitudes can hinder services for
people who are violent and need help as well as
for the victims. Continued stereotyping serves
no one. It actually hampers things. Only by ending
stereotyping may we see real responses to the
problems of domestic violence. Ideally the research
should help create or take it to places that offers
services to victims and perpetrators and helps them to
design programs that could assist both men and women.

I shall repeat what I posted earlier - until we work
towards a better understanding of the complexities of
each form of victimisation the development of effective
responses will take that much longer.