o sung wu - you continue to digress . . .

We seem to be talking about physical abuse but believe me mental abuse can be as devastating , mental abuse is mainly the domain of women, men being the recipient of the abuse, having lived with a mother who not only could use physical abuse but her main weapon was mental abuse, and one must admit it was her forte, it was not only with her immediate family, but relatives and her friends as well, anyone who became her friend would soon be at the "lashing of her tongue" as she a always put it, consequently her attitude meant friends etc soon became enemies, this having a mental effect on her immediate family who were suffering as well because one must remember " I am your Mother " male relatives were more at risk of her abuse.
If one suggested she needed help to overcome her aggressive behaviour her answer would have been it is you who needs help and not me.
This is not an isolated case as many of our friends also suffered throughout life by an abusive mother who dominated all
With this type of a mental problem I can understand why any man can resort to aggressive physical violence which my father never ever did,he always regarded any woman with respect and would not resort to violence, he put up with hell and so did the family, until death freed the family.

Feminists have fought against the recognition of parental alienation, and grandparent/family alienation of course. It is DV waged against the child, the child's father and usually the father's family as well. Where are the stats for that?

Parental alienation
https://nationalparentsorganization.org/blog/20972-limited-definition-of-parental-alienation-syndrome-included-in-dsm-v

Hi there ON THE BEACH...

I'm must be getting old mate, I'm getting bloody sick of this Topic ! Furthermore, I can't seem to convey to others how it impacts upon police who have to deal with DV and the difficulties encountered whenever one has to investigate such crimes.

I think it was OJNAB who stated that mental abuse is sometimes as bad as physical abuse, with that I'd have to agree with him. Some buggers are really nasty when they get a belly full of piss and bad manners, and are quite capable of terrorising their spouse.

I've witnessed the effects of some awful abuse of the elderly, both of a verbal and physical kind ? And you're quite correct when you say there's often very little evidence of physical violence, a mere push is sufficient, together with the actual 'presence' of the assailant, will do it with the elderly (purely physical intimidation) will more often frighten them senseless !

Such criminal conduct is very cowardly, and there's absolutely no excuse as the victim is incapable of mounting any defence against such behaviour.

I believe I've said all that I can say on this subject. I've tried to convey the actual practice adopted by police in these instances, if that's not sufficient, then I'm sorry.

otb, interesting link on Karen DeCrow. Did you notice the link to a book by the author of the article?
http://www.amazon.com/Ceasefire-Women-Forces-Achieve-Equality/dp/0684834421?tag=vglnk-c53-20

The write up on Christina Hoff Summers book http://www.amazon.com/Who-Stole-Feminism-Women-Betrayed/dp/0684801566/ref=pd_sim_b_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=027H49TY53PWYTKDS7NF bears a lot of resemblance to points made in this article.

R0bert

And the world as one just went down the drain, thanks to this thread.

Kat