<How in the hell did feminism ever come to that? Here again,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ptuQfV4q0
<Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 19 June 2014 2:31:20 PM

How? A woman can deliberately kill a man, admit to it and then be found not guilty. That is how.

Foxy, yet again a voice of reason in a sea of anti-feminists :)

You are right of course with what you say.
Neither gender should stereotype all the members of the opposite gender, because there are so many different scenarios in every family situation, and in the wider community.

Anyone who does stereotype all women as 'feminists' and /or 'ball-breakers', has obviously led a very narrow, sad life.
On the other hand, any women who consider all men as potentially violent or misogynists are also to be pitied.

Domestic violence means violence of any sort, committed against other family members.
It does NOT mean just violence against women, and I can't remember seeing anyone ever say that on this forum.

In regard to whats been said regarding stereotyping I agree but don't think it goes far enough.

For the most part the gender feminists don't claim its all men, they do though base their critique of the figures on stereotypes that are not backed by the evidence. There is an assumption that the gender feminists rely on that family violence is about control and that the fight for control of a partner is almost always a male thing. That is still stereotyping and its not backed by evidence, rather dogma.

The evidence is very clear that neither gender has a significant monopoly on DV, some forms of abuse where one gender will do more than the other exist (sexual/emotional) but overall its not a gender issue and continuing to treat is as such hinders our ability to reduce it and to provide better support for it's victims. What research I have seen on motivation for DV tells a similar story. No stereotype fits neatly.

I don't know if anybody has said explicitly that DV just means violence against women on this forum but I have certainly seen plenty pushing the line that DV is a male problem. Plenty trying to ridicule and divert attention from research showing that DV is not just something men do. Plenty doing their utmost to dispariage those trying to get the stereotypes out of the DV debate and have it focus on all violence rather then just violence by men against women.

R0bert

Interesting how this thread has deviated from the point the author was originally trying to make . . . he obviously struck a nerve otherwise there would not be so many responses . . .

There is a vast difference between mealy-mouthed generalised affirmation that 'DV-is-worrysome-but-it-affects-everyone' that struggles to arrive at the very weak speculation that 'more research may be needed' (presumably to prove that men do in fact suffer DV), and the fierce, strident denunciations of 'DV' in it broadest feminist definition where it might be affecting women.

Why is it so difficult to allow men equal rights and equal treatment anyhow? That is if the core value of feminism is in fact equality. You would thing that the death of an innocent, vulnerable, husband and father in a public place in the Land of the Free would be greeted with a mild rebuke for the extremes of feminist-led policy, its dreadful negative stereotyping of men and boys and the nature and extent of State intervention in private lives.

Where Oh where are the assurances that (say) White Ribbon Day will be occasioned by the same feminists taking the pledge that they will not be violent towards men and children too of course.

I believe that feminism in Australia serves the narrow interests of the educated middle class women who spruik it and in so many cases have a vested interest in keeping it that way to ensure more decades of swinging from the taxpayers' teat. Their sense of self entitlement is forever the elephant in the room.

Mind you, it isn't only 'men' who are their targets of their negatibve stereotyping, scorn and sledging. They are not so nice to their many 'sisters' who are not in lock-step with feminism's chosen ones, the leftist 'Emily's Listers'. It will be a very long, cold day in Hell before feminists recognise for example, that many women pass through a number of transitions in their lives and their choices are just as valid as those of the careerist, mercenary feminists who may be small in number, but are heard so stridently and so often.

tbc..

contd..

Anyhow, jolly good for OLO's feminists who now declare their concern that the dreadful negative stereotyping being waged against men and boys must end. Hmmm, perhaps that doesn't include their weasel words that push their interests, expectations and demands up-front and put everyone else's needs on the back burner.

Looking forward to the same feminists taking a public oath on White Ribbon Day that they will not be violent towards men, children and other women as well. Maybe Hell will freeze over, but then again, it hasn't happened yet.