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The rainbow, the cross and the crescent clash in the Australian Defence Force : Comments

By Bernard Gaynor, published 31/1/2014

Is Bernard Gaynor being expelled from the Defence Force for thought crimes which the Defence Force's own laws allow?

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The link above seems to have been more than the system can handle; copy and paste and it works.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 2 February 2014 11:29:31 AM
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I think I will pass on checking that link Is Mise.

JayB, how can you say that Marie can't speak for all the ADF personnel
(despite working in the army) but then you go on to say "Actually, the vast majority of Soldiers are against homosexuals being in the Army. "
Really? Are you in the army then?
How would you know?

I wouldn't mind betting that gay people have been part of the army for a long time, and no one else even knew. They just did their job like anyone else.

Bernard was sacked from the army because he broke the rules.
It doesn't matter who his commanding officers or fellow soldiers slept with, or their sexual orientation, the fact remains that Bernard was wrong.

It amuses me that posters like Cohenite degenerate into rants about others being 'feministas' or 'lefties' if they don't agree with his views.
Why is that?

For the record Cohenite, I didn't vote for Labor or the Greens....
And yes, I believe women are equal to men and should have the same rights.
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 2 February 2014 12:28:08 PM
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LEGO: the British governments considered that the political reliability of it's senior army commanders to be much more important than that of their sound military thinking.

Interesting book to read, LEGO, "Military Blunders" by Geoffrey Regan. ISBN: 0-233-99977-9.

Did you know that we could have won the Gallipoli Campaign but for a couple of very Senior Officers with connections. Stopford, Hammersley, Mahon & Stilwell. All involved in their own Rank & comfort first. The German Commanding Officer said that the Campaign could have been won by the British on that first day.

It's not the men that lose battles but the upper Officer echelon.

When Vietnam ended they kicked out the experienced war hardened Veterans & keep those that toe the line & only work within the guidelines of the Pham's. The kept a few, like Warrie George just to gee the young officers up. Petersen was persuaded to resign. Oh Petersen & one other (Yank) were the model for the Mad Colonel in "Appocalypse Now. Petersen was my first CO. & Warrie George had Command of Jezzine Bks. when I was in the Army. George is having a Book launch on Friday on Bribie Island. unfortunately he won't be there, medical.

I expect the same when the men return from Afghanistan. The Officer Ranks will get filled by Gays, Greenies, Lawyers & the Politically Correct, as is happening now.

Our Army is Doomed.
Posted by Jayb, Sunday, 2 February 2014 12:47:24 PM
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And yes, I believe women are equal to men and should have the same rights.
Suseonline,
Then why not act accordingly ??
Posted by individual, Sunday, 2 February 2014 1:54:58 PM
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Individual, how do you know how I act?
You only know what words I write on this forum.
What a bizarre comment.

Bernard was rightly sacked from the ADF, and you all need to get over that fact.
I want soldiers in our ADF who are willing to accept and fight for ALL Australians, and not just those with mainstream religious views, gender issues, or mainstream sexual preferences.

I consider soldiers who are accepting of all differences in our society as being real heroes.
Anyone else does not belong in our ADF.
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 2 February 2014 2:59:07 PM
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"For the record Cohenite, I didn't vote for Labor or the Greens...."

I don't believe that.

On every issue, AGW, Muslims and the boat people you take a left line.

And you have not addressed my point. The feministas NEVER complain about Islam, NEVER. What hypocrisy and as I say cowardice.

Answer that Suse.
Posted by cohenite, Sunday, 2 February 2014 3:04:06 PM
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